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What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?

— Only the monstrous anger of the guns.

Only the stuttering rifles’ rapid rattle

Can patter out their hasty orisons...

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[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 10 points 3 years ago

Don't forget this is the same rhetoric that right wingers used to compare Russia's military to the US. Russia is real men, the modern modern military in the world, the best trained, the US is falling behind. The West thought that Ukraine would fall in days in the event of a Russian invasion.

Then an invasion actually happened and the facade was stripped away.

Zero surprise they're recycling their old talking points for China instead.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 years ago

Oh, come on, no Russian (with balls turning around the correct axes in the skull, so to say) would believe that, about modern and best trained and falling behind.

The West thought that Ukraine would fall in days in the event of a Russian invasion.

That was sufficiently close, if you remember news and videos from the first weeks. It could have happened for all or most of the Left Bank Ukraine, if the Russian military would be just a bit less shit.

That helicopter assault on Kyiv's suburbs was rather Hollywood worthy. Ended with wasting best assault troops for nothing, though.

I mean, returning to modern and so on, if an American believes that, then I'm not sure whether they've been to Mexico even, not anything in Europe, let alone Eastern Europe.

Zero surprise they’re recycling their old talking points for China instead.

Now about China they may be right. China manufactures lots of things. China has its own consumer electronics. China has everything for a bloody autarchy, though of course it would take decades more to reach that and I don't see that being useful for them.

China is much more serious than Russia. It really (as in many times confirmed) does things in terms of modern weaponry and control systems which Russia has been doing only on paper, which has become clear now for everybody.

Anyway, it's better to overreact, no?

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