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[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

my argument is that i couldn't code real useful programs myself my whole life, and i tried several times, fail computer science in college etc, and now with claude im actually getting these things built -- and there's a lot of pitfalls a few times i had to tell claude to start over but i guess i feel like a paraplegic who could never walk but now with an accessible car i can actually drive and im sorry that's putting a lot of horse carriage drivers out of business.

and im my IRL circle, a couple of my friends who were great at coding in college and are now master coders, they're not complaining about it at all -- they're able to spin up ten agents at once to do things much faster than they were able to three years ago. they all have startup side businesses now on top of their full time industry job, only possible due to coding AIs helping them get shit done faster.

[-] vanillama@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

That doesn't address the climate or jobs question though, both require organizing

Of course organizing was and will always be good for the people

[-] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Let me say this how it sounds to me:

I couldn’t build weapons of mass destruction my whole life, I tried to build nukes several times but couldn’t. Now I have a robot that just does the nuking for me, while I can build other things. My other friends don’t seem to have a problem with the nuking, because they get to shoot their guns faster.

I’m sorry, but just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. I could do a lot of immoral, unethical, horrible to humanity and nature things and yet I don’t.

I mean the nuke analogy is quite stretched

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

In what way. That new AWS data center is going to kill about 7k people just in CO2 emissions per year. Just 21 of those will kill as many people as the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs per year.

Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-24487-w

[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well by that logic i was destined to go to hell a long time ago when i started driving. My personal annual commute to work creates ten times co2 emissions that the entirety of the energy google used to train chatgpt.

AI datacenters account for less than 10% global co2 emissions. Of course ten percent more global warming is bad, but i personally have several things that contribute more than using AI ten hours a week.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Huh? Google doesn’t own ChatGPT. And no, your personal commute to work isn’t a millionth of a fraction of what is used to train these models.

AI datacenters account for less than 10% global co2 emissions. Of course ten percent more global warming is bad, but i personally have several things that contribute more than using AI ten hours a week.

No, no you don’t.

So where's the other 90+% of carbon emissions coming from globally?

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