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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I won't drive anything I can't fix. That seems to be old vehicles only.

[–] Trampampoline@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

On one hand, I wanna do right by the environment, own an EV, do my part.

On the other hand, corporations are never going to do their part, the Earth is probably doomed and I have to get by to get by.

So... yeah, I'm probably buying another 6-9th gen Civic or Accord and sending it until it dissolves into the pavement.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Own an EV to save money. People buying vehicles seem to assume gas is free.

[–] metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And fewer moving parts means less expensive maintenance, generally. Granted, replacing a battery can get expensive, but if you're not going all that far anyway, the battery's range dropping from 400km to 200km after 12 years or so might not be a big deal. That said, the boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness might mean you're stuck with ICE vehicles for a while if you can't get a loan for a comparable amount of time.

Edit: after looking it up, that's also assuming a worst case loss, average range is now roughly 460km, getting better, and it's still at ~78% capacity 10 years later.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Buying old means not purchasing net new products. It's not fully sustainable, but it maintains the status quo and doesn't contribute to more waste. Keeping something old alive and in good working condition is a lower carbon footprint than buying a new EV or Hybrid.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago

Depends on the miles. An EV undertakes a new gas car after 20k miles.

There is a point where a new EV, with mined lithium and all, will be more environmentally friendly than a used car that didn't need to be built but burns gas for every mile.

If you live in a sunny area (pv) or a dense hydro area, that point is quite quickly reached.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Whether there's a net lower carbon footprint depends heavily on how much gasoline you burn

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

However the used EV market is only growing

[–] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I'm optimistic about Slate. Perhaps naively so.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm hoping that someone does some reverse engineering on the engine management computers of EVs. EVs internals are a lot simpler. An open source, drop in brain is definitely not unachievable.

All the advantages of an EV with none of the corporate tracking.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Simple to do badly, but still challenging to do elegantly. Managing power/throttle response in every situation is quite complex if you want it to feel good. Kinda like how everyone makes a trackpad, but only Apple makes Apple trackpads.

And thats before we get into the complications of thermal management with the batteries and heat pumps and stuff.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you mean for an ICE to EV conversion? You can already buy such kits.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

More a replacement brain for an EV. Compared to an ICE there is far less to manage in a hyper time critical manner. It's a lot more viable to design a drop in replacement. Particularly if the battery bank already has its own monitoring, that just reports upwards.

You would end up with a modern EV, with many of the desired features. However, the manufacturer would no longer be able to reach in and extract data, either remotely, at a mechanic, or after an accident.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Just unplug the sharkfin, or cover it with foil tape.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

You can also have that. The ice replacement kits bring everything, and very often use tesla or leaf batteries. If you already have a Tesla battery in your tesla, that much you can save. You lose all the fancy features, remote app management, sentry, etc, but that might be a pro for you...

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

same, that's why I drive a kid tricycle.

[–] bytejunk@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Whoop whoop carburetor gang rise UP!

[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, carbs are great if you love working on cars. A factory fuel injection system these days (anything newer than the old Jetronic pieces of shit) is pretty much set it and forget it, plus if you do have a bad sensor or something, it'll usually tell you (by live data reading if not DTC). Way easier to maintain than carburetors.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Carburetors waste a lot of fuel.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Ha. Just switch to an electronic ignition, improved coil, and spark and it's as peppy and efficient as fuel injection.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

efficient as fuel injection

That's quite wrong.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

I the sort of person who would go to the dealership and start looking underneath the showroom cars. If I can't see the oil filter, I don't want it.

[–] BrickEater@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both of my cars are from the 80's lol. I will never buy a new vehicle again, made that mistake with a 2019 Tacoma.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have 1974 car, a 1994 4x4 van for snow, and a 1975 motorcycle for summer. All things I do my own work on.