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[–] that_60s_witch@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

If you can’t see how coming out with a critically acclaimed album that’s being called your best work in 20 years, at the age of 67, when every single time you’re mentioned there are people rushing in to say, “You’re old and expired, just go away already,” is pushing buttons, I really don’t know what to say.

And as for the plastic surgery bit, I’ve always found the line of thinking that you should “just accept your age” and stop trying to look or act young pretty odd. I myself have had plastic surgery (a deep-plane facelift and neck lift, breast lift and augmentation, etc.) to look more youthful. Not wanting to age into the stereotypical image of an old woman isn’t inauthentic or negative.

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Now this shouldn't be about shaming women, their supposed place once aged or any of those things.

This should be about the fact that her music is derivative and unoriginal, more reheated leftovers of her previous work.

Cmon everyone, stay objective!

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The pressure on women is to look young. Rebelling against that ideally includes not trying to make yourself look young by having invasive procedures that most women can't even afford. Again, get all the plastic surgery you like. But it does send a signal and it isn't "I accept that I am not 23 anymore, society can go fuck itself".

Anyway, accepting for the moment that encouraging women to grow old while not caring what others think about them is her cause. Is that it? Because others are doing a much better job of that.

Now, I haven't followed her because the last time I was consciously aware of her music (some time in the 00s, I think) it had started to become generic so I stopped caring. So earlier I tried to hint at a thing that I found actively annoying about her in recent years, namely her NFTs. Want to comment on that? How she jumped on that dumpsterfire of a bandwagon to make more money?

[–] that_60s_witch@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

To be completely honest, I wasn’t even aware of the NFT thing. She has done some pretty unsavory things over the course of her career, the NFT thing, obviously, her reaction to Sinéad O’Connor tearing up the photo of the Pope, her habit of being consistently late for concerts, etc., and I have no qualms about admitting that. When you’ve been a public figure for over four decades, you’re bound to have a mix of good and bad things to talk about.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You're still not answering the question of 'what buttons is she still pressing.'

An old person releasing another album isn't pressing buttons.

[–] that_60s_witch@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I did answer the question. You only get that interpretation if you ignore every bit of context.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I can almost hear how, uh, someone (?) is shaking their fist in impotent fury at that album and yelling "curse youuuuu, Madonna, for releasing new music!"

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 10 hours ago

You haven't provided any relevant context.