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[–] ddplf@szmer.info 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Did you have fun cherrypicking for russophiliac propaganda writing this tankie piece of shit? That "article" is a copy-paste of 1980s Progressive Labor Party garbage and a Doug Tottle book published by a literal Soviet-front press. Your "reputed historians" quotes predate the Soviet archives opening, so the stuff that actually confirmed the targeted grain quotas, the border seals around Ukraine/Kuban, and the blacklisted villages. Even the historians who reject the word "genocide" don't claim it was just weather and kulaks, so you're to the right of your own sources.

And BadEmpanada isn't a historian, he's a tankie youtuber who already got dismantled point-by-point in "How Bad Empanada Lies to You." Try citing something that isn't stalinist fanfic next time.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You seem to be mad rather than engaging with the argument at hand. I hope you liberals try to argue next time. What is your source that it was a man made genocide? I hope you bring some sources like I did rather than being mad and discarding them without any argument and throwing slurs.

Even the historians who reject the word “genocide” don’t claim it was just weather and kulaks, so you’re to the right of your own sources.

Neither did I say it was only the weather or kulaks, soviet leadership did mistakes, quite big mistakes infact, does that mean it was intentional genocide? nothing concludes that.

I dont even watch badempanada regularly but this video is pretty good at analyzing holodmor, you could give it a try because badempanda rather than forcing in his own opinion cites direct sources and critically analyzes them.