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"No way to prevent this" says only distro where this regularly happens
News from this year:
varnish, which is renamed tovinyl-cache(it's a proxy, only affects servers)Repost.
Also, my Mint install broke, uh, shit I don't remember, 5 times? Arch broke zero times. Zero times not my own fault for forgetting I was installing something and shutting off the computer, of course. Except for the times I tried the fucking installer python script, but since I never even booted the install it doesn't count.
Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it.
Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine.
Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol
I dont get the bad press arch got. I use arch (btw) and can't remember last time it wont boot after an update. It maybe happened to me twice in 20 years and at least once was my fault and the other was because i didn't read the pacman post warning me
Once it happened to me because 6 years prior I'd made a change thinking 'hah. That makes more sense' and then things changed under me and I had to read journalctl in a tty. Low key enjoyed dealing with it. But here's the thing: most ppl are dead at that point. No idea what to do. Arch is for nerds.
Edit: if you also read my other post about iptables, this is a completely different thing. I had two issues.
Iptables change actually fucked me because I'd tweaked something stupid 12 years ago and forgot. Took lime 45-60 mins to fix
If you're running Virtualbox on Arch you deserve everything you get.
What's wrong with it?
Let me put it like this: Imagine you've won this beautiful pristine house full of potential and it cost you absolutely nothing. You can rennovate and decorate and do anything you want with it. Endless possibilities.
Instead, the first thing you decide to do is call up Larry Ellison and invite him to personally come and shit on your kitchen floor. And one day you forgot his shit was still on the floor and you stepped in it and now Larry's shit is all through your house. And then the phone rings and it's Larry because he's been monitoring your house and now his lawyers are suing you for stepping in his shit.
In addition to VirtualBox being a fucking awful piece of software, Oracle is the absolute antithesis of Linux - anti-user, anti-freedom. Why would you put that closed-source, privacy-trampling, proprietary bullshit on your pristine Linux install? . Use KVM virtualization instead, or even a more modern docker-ish like solution.
🤭 heh
To be fair, adoption as a concept is the problem not the actual aur.
The fundamentals of the aur was fine though that entire ordeal. It's just one optional choice layered on top that wasn't
Blaming the aur fundamentally for that choice is like blaming the city planner for when a idiot turns down the wrong way on a one way street.
We kinda just accepted the risk because the upsides were worth it. But some people are assholes and gotta ruin it for everyone.
This isn't the first type of problem that the AUR has had. A few years ago it had problems staying up, because it had no scalability to speak of.
"Best hopes and wishes" is not an accepted engineering design strategy. If something can be abused, it will be. Not planning for it is just that, poor planning.
The AUR has been poorly put together and this wave of malware is just another symptom of a deeper problem.
And one post earlier (2025-12-20) that the image likely could be about:
Yes, that was a while ago, so it's a repost. Also, NoVideo deprecations affect all distributions.
If Nvidia deprecates your driver you'll be up shits creek on just about every distro unless you already used nouveau.
Foot-guns are my PROTECTED SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT.
Arch explicitly says "never do this"
Well yeah and cigarettes tell you not to smoke them
Lol. Care to explain how your analogy stands?
Arch will give you cancer
Arch can be traded for sex and murders in prison.
Hasn’t yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely
Ubuntu pissed me off back when Shuttleworth said, "This is not a democracy!"
Oh yeah, I did miss some crazy stuff in my windows days
I have been using arch linux. And I havent gotten cancer yet. How do i have to be using arch linux to get it?
I smoke since 20 years and I haven't gotten cancer yet too. How do I smoke to get cancer? /s
Cigarettes work for me perfectly well, other users must be doing something wrong.
You need to be wearing striped thigh-highs I think
No no no, that's how you prevent it. Striped thigh-highs and fursuits isolate against the cancerous effects.
Exactly
Hasn't yet. Ubuntu, on the other hand, managed to piss me off completely
Edit: sorry, wrong thread
Damn I thought you were about to say Ubuntu gave you cancer
I was :) But then decided it wasn't that serious
Did you know that glass is technically a liquid?
As far as I remember, not quite. But it definitely is not solid like metal, yeah
It stands as written.
Reminds me of my try of Nobara. I do clean install, it installs and starts updating itself for a long while. Afterwards it tells me to reboot, and that the update has failed. I am??? Since I am a noob, so I reboot. And the whole system fully breaks, and no trouble-shooting helps, so I have to re-install. No biggie, just mildly annoying, it was a clean install after all. Then I do some searching to figure out, what went wrong, and find out, that updates failing and the system fully breaking, and having to re-install it if you reboot, is apparently normal behavior for Nobara.
I've had Nobara on my PC for several years and not had a problem, though I know others have
Having said that, if I could be bothered I would probably just return to regular Fedora again so that I could have a decent package manager and updater...
To be honest, I'm a firm believer that if it's considered required to read the news file for updating then the update tool should be printing that information for you. I used to have a hook that did it, but it was flaky. Also, I saw the creator mention that due to the design of the hooks, it happens too late in the process for some manual intervention to be done properly. But because everyone in Arch has such an obsession with "no bloat" I doubt we'll ever see pacman have that feature.