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Ice Machine? Some bourgeoisie shit right there.
Oh yeah, I remember seeing videos of world cup travelers being amazed by that this summer. I didn't realize it wasn't a normal thing!
It's slightly offset by the increased energy costs, as the fridge is way less efficient
The fridge is less efficient when there is an ice maker? How? It sounds like you’re basically saying the freezer is always going to be less efficient when there’s something to freeze.
It's the need for a thoroughfare through the insulation that makes it less efficient.
An ice maker is more complex than just manually freezing ice in a tray. You have a bunch of small motors and pumps and things that require more electricity to function, and all of that energy is on top of the energy it takes to cool the freezer (which a non ice maker refrigerator is already doing). Plus, all those things that are inside the freezer space are now generating or adding heat in the space youre using energy to cool, especially the water it’s continuously freezing to make ice whenever it isnt full.
A report from 2020 said that automatic ice maker refrigerators use 14-20% more energy than a normal refrigerator
Did the study take into account opening the door multiple times to get the ice tray in and out vs the tiny hole in the door only being open while ice is flowing?
Also why would there be any pumps? Faucets don’t have pumps and neither does any fridge I have ever had.
Most ice machines have a water pump. I suppose you could make one that just used a water supply pressure and valves but I’ve never seen that on commercial ice machines
We aren’t talking about commercial ice machines though, we are talking about the ones inside the freezer of domestic refrigerators. All of those that I have seen just use tap pressure for the ice machine and the door dispenser.
Yeah but they also make ice
Having gone to some Japanese and Korean stores, I think the same thing when I see their appliances. The rice cookers and refrigerators are super different. An example that we now all know about, the Japanese bidet.
I wonder how efficient those always-hot water kettles are
I was being laughed at by a brit about using the microwave to boil my water. I took great offense to that and argued a bit with them. I bought a kettle because someone bought me some fancy tea and it needed the control. I'm sorry unknown brit, you were 100% right about the kettle.
Moral of the story: Always trust a brit when they're talking about something to do with tea.
Electric kettle is best. Which is what they mostly use.
They also have 220v house current, making their kettles much faster. But even with 110v mains a kettle is best