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Note that the centrist fails to spell out what this statistic means and instead says "killed by your own gun" as if a mean ghost posesses the gun and it sprouts legs and beats you to death
an interpretation that isn't a deliberate lie would look something like this: the presence of a gun in a home makes attempted suicides and domestic violence more likely to be fatal, and also sometimes correlates with (not causes) increased threat of violence and decreased access to safety from the police
and none of those problems (except for the suicide one, obviously remove your access to guns if that seems like an attractive option at all) is fixed by not getting a gun
I wonder what the statistics since he took office again how attacks on LEGBT+ and left leaning people have been. We're reaching a point where the left needs to arm up to defend themselves from a violent reactionary wing of the country like said reactionaries needed it to defend themselves.
I think it'd also be important to break down statistics based on political ideology anymore with firearms. I have a different mentality and belief in what owning a firearm is as opposed to your typical reactionary.
listen, those are great ideas, but this guy is not going to investigate them
Yeah, probably not, but it'd be interesting statistics none the less.
Of course it's solved by not getting a gun - the guns in suicide and domestic violence don't materialize on their own.
how many suicides do you think the average person is involved in
do you think that if x% of people attempt suicide, that your individual chance of attempting suicide is x%
I think the chances of someone successfully committing suicide dramatically increases if they have access to a gun.
Cool. As an adult, I like to be able to weigh positives and negatives and make my own decisions.
Since you like numbers, what are the odds these days of getting murdered by a fascist if you don't have a gun?
Approaching zero?
More like wildly increasing from what was near zero for decades.
It is still approaching zero, unlike the very much higher risk of being killed with your own gun.
Cool. As an adult, I have lots of devices around that could horribly injure or kill me if used improperly. Are you saying I shouldn't own a table saw, ladder, or vehicle?
What if I've been prescribed medication which could kill me if I took the whole bottle? Should I not keep my medication around?
Thank goodness you're here. I guess I wasn't up to the task of managing risk and making my own decisions.
You should weigh the costs and benefits of each. If you need help, in the United States table saws cause roughly zero deaths in the US every year, by contrast guns kill roughly 45,000 people annually.
Considering there are something like 450,000,000 firearms in this country, and since many of those deaths are deliberately self-inflicted, those odds don't seem too bad. It ain't like a firearm will just go off on its own. Certainly reason to preach caution, but not fear. Guns demand training, mindfulness, and care. They're not for people who want to be coddled. You say it's dangerous. Of course it is! That's the point.
Nazis must not be the only group armed. Gun rights are minority rights. Every gun ban in this country has been used to oppress minorities, never to disarm fascists. You're talking to us as if you're the adult and we are children unaware of the risks. We are not. We are taking our lives and freedoms into our own hands, and preparing to defend them. You wanna use peaceful protest, go ahead. Nothing wrong with that. But you don't get to tell minorities not to make use of the tools legally available for self defense. We indulged you before, when fascism still feared to take over. But they've never been defeated peacefully. Now it's time for liberals to stop whining about us preparing against it. Not like y'all ever did a damn thing to prevent their rise in the first place.
Honestly you seem like a child unable to assess the risks. Sure - the odds of any individual in the US being killed with their own gun is small, but it is dramatically higher than the odds of them defending themselves against an assailant. It's just an unnecessary game of russian roulette. Owning a gun is a hazard that makes people significantly less safe than not owning one.
A drunk guy attacked a STRANGER--the WRONG stranger--for having pride flags on his porch. Even if this stuff is less common than in the past, it's far from gone.
I'm guessing if Wolfe said "Get off my property or I'll shoot you" it might have deterred Jones more than a baseball bat. Maybe not, but the gun still gives you an edge if/when it comes to a fight.
As others have said, if you believe the dangers of a gun in your home outweigh the benefits, then by all means don't own one. I just don't think it's "terrible" advice to own a gun and keep it in a safe location.
The danger of a gun FAR outweighs the vanishingly rare outliers where a gun is helpful. There is no question about this. Only fevered gun-fondlers can manage to confuse themselves on this issue. It's very very clear.
an alcoholic's chance of getting blackout drunk dramatically increases if they have access to alcohol
does my chance of getting blackout drunk increase if I have access to alcohol (no, it remains zero)
we can all see you deliberately mixing up "the general public" and "a specific named individual," it is obvious fuckery
we are talking about populations, not some specific individual.
you literally told a specific individual not to get a gun
Right - because owning a gun dramatically increases their chances of being the victim of gun violence.
You keep saying that in such vague terms. What exactly do you think is gonna happen?
Well what usually happens is that someone is killed with the gun they bought that they thought would make them safer. What don't you understand?