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AI = Fascism
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this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2026
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I think the overall sentiment is correct given how the current manifestation of AI is built primarily to build a system of control over human information, with the principle players (Oracle, Amazon, Google) attempting to execute the strategic goal of controlling human intelligence for the purposes of political power.
I also agree that the way the supporting network for AI is being built out is an environmental catastrophe, both in terms of data centers physical ecological footprint and the additional power they consume.
But I fully believe that it's not the technology at fault - rather, its how its being used by the power players that control it.
A data center doesn't have to be an ecological nightmare, for instance. An underground facility powered by above ground wind and solar could provide both the needed power and temperature control, while containing the impacts from sound and machinery. But it's more expensive to build underground than it is to buy off the city council in bumfuck Alabamistan.
Let's look the technology itself. What AI has become is not intelligence or consciousness in any sense of the word. It has become a text based interface with an engine capable of processing large datasets and performing complex operations on the level of a human operator (sometimes).
This in itself is not fascist -but it absolutely has the power to enable fascism in the wrong hands, and all of the principal players in the space have proven themselves amoral (save perhaps Anthropic in certain cases). Conversely, I also believe it has the power to enable democracy in the right hands.
The key word here is power. Power means the power to either disrupt the status quo or build it. AI is a power we've only come to live with for about two years now, and its terrifying because its already in the hands of the wrong people.
But it's not going away, no more than nukes will or guns or anything humanity has found a use for. I think blanket statements like AI = fascism do more harm than good because they give responsibility to a tool, when in fact it should lie with the people who use those tools towards nefarious ends.
In conclusion, I'd like to end with this loving message to any Anonymous who haven't sold out to the feds:
Get off your lazy asses and hack Grok to fuck Elon and the Epstein class up. Y'all wanna be netrunners? This is your motherfucking time to shine.
A question on this one, how does being underground help with the temperature control? If anything it sounds like that makes cooling harder.
What makes you think it's harder to keep cool?
Soil is a great insulator - protected from sun the sheer mass makes it much, much cooler than above ground. Without the additional external heat its much easier to climate conteol.
(Yes it does get hotter the further you go but that's due to proximity to the planet's core...ain't no one putting a dc down that far)
That's exactly what makes me think it's harder. Datacenters need to move dozens (or these days hundreds) of megawatts of power away. For this they either heat air or evaporate water both of which flows away through the atmosphere, or - much more rarely unfortunately - they heat water which flows away through pipes to heat other buildings.
Energy coming in from sunlight or warm surrounding air is negligible, the important factor is the energy coming in electrically and being converted to heat. For that a surrounding insulator is the last thing you want.
Yeah nah, that's not how it works. Most dcs are insulated to prevent thermal bridging to the outside world
Hahahah absolutely not.
You know conservation of energy in a closed system, yes? What do you think happens when dozens of megawatt of power is transported in electrically, and get turned into heat in a bunch of semiconductors and electrical motors, and you don't transport any of that heat out?
Dude.
You do realise cooling and heat export is possible with an insulated building, yea? In fact the better the insulation the more effective the climate control.
Don't "dude" me, you're the one claiming DCs don't want thermal bridging, when in fact they are all about somehow building the maximum possible multilane bridge of doom to our atmosphere to get rid of all the heat as effectively as possible.
Your common wisdom of good insulation is good for effective climate control only applies to buildings where an insignificant amount of heat in generated inside.
Yeah nah mate. Not what i'm saying, and if you want to make up stupid shit to pretend argue against, you can do it without involving me.
Okay, maybe just ruminate on how an insulating layer of soil helps with removing heat, maybe it will come to you later.
It's drastically cooler underground until you get really deep in the mantle, and most importantly, the temperature is stable. No weather fluctuations.
This is why wine caves were invented before refrigeration - consistently cool, stable temperatures.
Yes it is cooler in the beginning, but only for a short time, if you start pumping dozens (or these days hundreds) of megawatts of power into the ground it will heat up very quickly. Earth and rock is terrible at conducting heat.
Weather is not the issue for a datacenter, the heat generated from converting electrical energy, that's the problem to solve.