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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

Do you believe that the PSL, as an example, is doing less for the revolutionary movement than Luigi?

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml -2 points 7 hours ago

Again, there are actions important for a revolutionary movement that are not revolutionary in themselves. To put a historical example: Lenin's activities in London were vital for the Russian Revolution, they were not revolutionary actions, since all he did was legal in the UK at the time. So the answer is a clear no, the PSL is not doing less for the revolutionary movement. But the PSL is not, by my knowledge carrying out revolutionary actions. Perhaps you can point me to a specific action you consider revolutionary.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

I think you're more concerned with labels than what work advances revolution and what work does not, which is my point.

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 hours ago

It's not that I am more concerned with it, it's that the whole point of the post is to deride people for choosing voting over the revolution. So my answer was that right now nobody is carrying out revolutionary acts. You seem to think that they are and therefore the point focuses on what such an act is. It is not that I don't see value in other actions, just that they don't fall in the category of the car in the picture going straight.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

People are organizing for revolution right now. That's practical work, and is necessary. Voting does not do that. Neither does random assassination. Simple as that.

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago

"That’s practical work, and is necessary" 100% agree. Now let's say a natural disaster wipes one of the organizations out. Would any of their current actions have moved the revolutionary movement further? Or would it have disappeared along with the group? If their actions have moved the revolutionary work movement forward even if they stop existing right now, please point me to a specific instance. That's all I'm saying.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

I'm saying these hypotheticals do not have a point beyond a semantic one.

[-] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago

In that case the whole discussion from the beginning is semantic, so that's all what the discussion has been about.

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