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[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Returning to Luigi, he definitely didn't move the general movement forward. As I said, he can only be considered within the context of privatized healthcare and even then as a failed spark. But failing is not the same as not existing, that's where we disagree.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I never said Luigi did not exist. I said he was not revolutionary.

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I meant the act. I don't consider him a revolutionary either.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The act wasn't revolutionary either.

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

For the greater movement no. If a second CEO had been murdered, do you think that there would have been no changes at all in any sense?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Revolution isn't any change, change is constant. I don't think a second random assassination would improve worker positioning and organizing for revolution, nor weaken the bourgeois state.

[–] someoneelse@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

Again, revolutionary within the scope of health care in the US. There is more than one kind of revolution possible. And if you don't think that a system that's causing the death of thousand of people and uncountable amount of pain due to lack of care improves the lives of workers then that's a different discussion.