Ah, I have trouble parsing this kind of comment. Dyslexia kicks my ass sometimes, so forgive me if I don't respond as well as one might hope, because you definitely put in effort that deserves the same in return. It's a me thing, totally.
Tangent: I am but an egg, but I seek to grok being god ;)
Second tangent: taking time to enjoy the night sky is such a wonderful thing, I'm so glad you did so. I forget sometimes to do just that.
If I'm reading right, I think what you're getting at is the word choices more than the concepts. You have a solid point that the words "god" and "divine" have weight. That's part of why framing spirituality in those terms is still useful. There's a goodly portion of humanity that seeks a form of growth away from the baggage that traditional religion, particularly monotheism, has.
One of the first steps in that path is recognizing that God as a concept is not necessarily something one has to find as some kind of deity. That God can be a god, and eventually that god and gods are constructs used to filter what the universe "throws at us".
Side note: I didn't find anywhere that I capitalized god in my previous comments. I certainly didn't intend to do so if it happened. I tend use ALL CAPS in limited ways, and none have yet been useful here. If I'm mistaken and did so, please just ignore it as a typo, because that's what it would be
In terms of fantasy as a term in this situation, there's a difference between fantasy and myth. Largely one of time and construction, where myth is built over time as an attempt to relate to the unknown and the difficult to process. It isn't usually something one just imagines and then launches whole into the consciousness of humanity.
Gods as fantasy is fine as far as that goes, as anyone that doesn't believe in them as an objective reality (and neither of us seems to) can safely use myth and fantasy interchangeably. But it is dismissive to anyone that does believe. I would argue that gods as fantasy did change the world, and that's what makes them more than simple fantasy. It's what makes the concept relevant to a y discussion of spirituality as a whole.
I gotta cut this short, and I know I didn't hit everything. Sorry for that, I intend to come back tomorrow, just have meatspace stuff that needs my attention.
Ah, I have trouble parsing this kind of comment. Dyslexia kicks my ass sometimes, so forgive me if I don't respond as well as one might hope, because you definitely put in effort that deserves the same in return. It's a me thing, totally.
Tangent: I am but an egg, but I seek to grok being god ;)
Second tangent: taking time to enjoy the night sky is such a wonderful thing, I'm so glad you did so. I forget sometimes to do just that.
If I'm reading right, I think what you're getting at is the word choices more than the concepts. You have a solid point that the words "god" and "divine" have weight. That's part of why framing spirituality in those terms is still useful. There's a goodly portion of humanity that seeks a form of growth away from the baggage that traditional religion, particularly monotheism, has.
One of the first steps in that path is recognizing that God as a concept is not necessarily something one has to find as some kind of deity. That God can be a god, and eventually that god and gods are constructs used to filter what the universe "throws at us".
Side note: I didn't find anywhere that I capitalized god in my previous comments. I certainly didn't intend to do so if it happened. I tend use ALL CAPS in limited ways, and none have yet been useful here. If I'm mistaken and did so, please just ignore it as a typo, because that's what it would be
In terms of fantasy as a term in this situation, there's a difference between fantasy and myth. Largely one of time and construction, where myth is built over time as an attempt to relate to the unknown and the difficult to process. It isn't usually something one just imagines and then launches whole into the consciousness of humanity.
Gods as fantasy is fine as far as that goes, as anyone that doesn't believe in them as an objective reality (and neither of us seems to) can safely use myth and fantasy interchangeably. But it is dismissive to anyone that does believe. I would argue that gods as fantasy did change the world, and that's what makes them more than simple fantasy. It's what makes the concept relevant to a y discussion of spirituality as a whole.
I gotta cut this short, and I know I didn't hit everything. Sorry for that, I intend to come back tomorrow, just have meatspace stuff that needs my attention.