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What problem would be solved by this hypothetical migration?
I trink this is rooted in forward thinking. If cloud flare gets a monopoly in that position (what it arguably already has), they can project all the power of a monopoly about us...
So this is more about preventing future problems and not solving problems that exist.
The question remains unanswered: which problems, hypothetically or otherwise, would this migration solve?
Cloudflare projecting its dominating power onto lemmy?
I'm sorry, this assertion is meaningless scaremongering. What exactly is "projecting it's dominating power" supposed to mean?
And by the way, may I point out that site maintainers purposely adopted Cloudflare to serve specific purposes?
OK, if there is a monopolistic instance between you and the rest of the world that decides who can reach you and who not and you are depending on that single monopolistic instance, I think we all agree that this is a bad thing.
Potential threads from this are (but not limited to):
You're asking for specifics on their concerns while not providing the specifics that were already in place in your claim here.
They acknowledged and included reasons for the Cloudflare adoption in their original post.
If you want to change something, the very least that's expected of you is that the change actually fixes something.
If you can't even put together a description of exactly what's broken, obviously you can't tell if your proposal is even able to fix anything.
And may I point out the fact that this very discussion starts by admitting that alternatives are not effective?
Change for the sake of change is a pointless endeavour. Moreso if it comes from mindless militancy.
Personally I cannot visit most crimeflare sites because it just gives me an infinite captcha loop... so moving away from them seems like that would solve that issue.
I use Firefox Focus on my mobile and I can't enter sites with CloudFlare because it says my browser is incompatible. It gets annoying when I ramp up my privacy on the Internet and sites outright refuse to load if they see I don't allow cookies and trackers. I'd rather see broken js-free website than pitch black CloudFlare page.
I also use Firefox Focus and I never experienced that issue at all. Are you sure this is a Cloudflare issue?
Also, site owners are purposely using Cloudflare to protect themselves from abnormal traffic. If site owners are the ones paying Cloudflare to lift these barriers, why do you interpret this issue as a problem created by Cloudflare?
For shits and giggles I logged into programming.dev with Firefox Focus, and suffice to say I'm posting this with that browser.
I also did some tweaking and I did noticed that it I configure Firefox Focus to strip all types of tracking (akin to NoScript) then Cloudflare complains about extensions.
Exactly that, Cloudflare complains about extensions. It's a matter of aggressive tracking protection. I can view Anubis protected sites just fine, only the Cloudflare ones prevent access.
What you are describing is not browser incompatibility. It's default fallback page that Cloudflare shows when it fails to run its javascript code.
Site owners such as programming.dev maintainers purposely onboarded Cloudflare to run those scripts, as that's how their anti-abuse system works.
The 'browser incompatibility' is what's written on the fallback page. The question was about the problem that migration from Cloudflare would solve and I provided one particular problem. Not that it affects me personally, because I use a standalone app for Lemmy, but I assume there are some people that do not wish to run Cloudflare js
No. The page clearly says "Incompatible browser extension or network configuration".
It then lists a number of troubleshooting steps to get the page to work.
I don't think so. Site maintainers are expecting your browser to run the scripts to detect and prevent abuse, and you are going way out of your way to not run them. You are not describing a problem.
Have you tried Chrome Mask?
Personally, my local Cloudflare seems to have some problem with IPv6 and some sites won't load. On my desktop I've set Firefox to use IPv4 for such sites, but on my phone I need to use mobile data (which doesn't support IPv6). I don't think it's a common problem, but you did ask.
Some global ISPs still struggle with IPv6. I recall that until somewhat recently Vodafone didn't supported it at all. Are you sure this is a Cloudflare issue?
Cloudflare gives its 522 error, but I can load via IPv6 from the same city. I've also found the issue with Cf in front of servers I run on a different continent, so I've been able to do some good testing and have spent plenty of time looking into it. I haven't found any other Cloudflare locations with the problem, but there's plenty of them.
This means Cloudflare is forwarding the request but the origin server times out. Meaning, it's the origin server that is unable to handle the IPv6 request.
https://developers.cloudflare.com/support/troubleshooting/http-status-codes/cloudflare-5xx-errors/error-522/
Please reread the first sentence of what you just replied to.
I read, and then I posted. Is there anything in my reply that I can explain to you?