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The epstine class has determined Ai generated csam is legal
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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
No, realistically they wouldn't. If the entire point is to have some site that can legally and openly generate legal child porn, they would go to the trouble of developing a model without using real child porn images. There would be no point otherwise.
that's not the whole point, the whole point is to get as much data as possible to train their LLMs, and they've shown blatant disregard for laws and morality up to this point, there's no reason to give them the benefit of doubt.
You cant have a legal website do this. It breaks the law of transmitting the content which is still against the law.
If this model truly was free of CSAM then a site could host the model for you to download, but you'd still have to make it locally. (Edit and never share / transmit it)
Couple things. Firstly just yesterday there was a headline I saw on Lemmy that said Elon Musk's Grok was found to have some absurdly high number of child porn images it was trained from. So, yes that absolutely is what would happen, because it just did happen.
Secondly, The concept of child porn is what I always thought was banned. The core concept of it at all. That's what I thought was illegal. So that would cover things like hand drawn fiction. Things like AI content. Things like audio files of simulated or actual child sex. Anything at all promoting the concept of child sexual abuse. Of any kind.
I will put it to you like this. I have a fetish that's rather newish when you consider how long it's been around compared to other fetishes. It's absolutely nothing to do with children, or anything illegal. The important thing about my fetish is that it's rather new. And back in the year 2000 this fetish got a website which was kind of the unofficial official home of our fetish. In those days the message board had roughly 10,000 registered members. The last time I checked in the year 2008 it had something like 8 million members. This message board was essentially just a centralized place to share content of our fetish. Stories, fictional or real. Images. The internet was too early to share video, but it kind of did anyways. You just had to wait a while, since it was 56k days. And because of all this exposure and new content, the fetish spread. Now on Fetlife, it's not all that hard to find people with this fetish. We're kind of everywhere. It's a harmless fetish that most people laugh at, but it's still gaining traction.
Now lets apply that same concept to child porn. By allowing the creation and distribution of fictional child porn you grow the genre. My fetish started out with 10k members, and grew to millions. We outgrew the original centralized message board because it was too popular that it just spread everywhere else, and suddenly we didn't need a centralized sharing ground because now it was hosted on every porn site. Today I can't picture a major general purpose porn site without my fetish. Now imagine a world where that were also true of child porn. Even fictional. Even drawn or AI. It spreads. Then as they become more normalized, they'll feel more comfortable coming out without being shamed for it. I want every possible avenue of shaming them. I want to shame them out of existence. Not normalize it.
Prohibition doesn't work, I thought we all knew this here on Lemmy
You mixed up Distribution vs possession
You got a lot of words that to me just sound like you're for thought crimes.