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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Dude merges in code into the kernel originating from how many thousands of developers from around the world?

Read the LKML if you think he's a guy that's prone to getting comfy with merging in sub-par code.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago
[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago

You assume humans don't ever write sloppy code and Linux Torvalds has never before encountered someone wanting to merge in sloppy code before. If in decades he hasn't gotten comfy with sloppy code written by humans, why would he suddenly be merging in sloppy code written by an AI? He's never been worried about hurting the feelings of a human that's writing sloppy, do you suppose he's going to develop empathy for an LLM that's writing sloppy code?

The people that go all in on vibe coding are people that aren't very good programmers to begin with. They don't really understand how to write code and then suddenly they can make things work quickly. Well sort of work. At least work about as well as they could with their limited skills.

People that are actually good at programming know what good code is. After decades of working with code and knowing what it's supposed to be, you don't suddenly become a vibe coder saying eh, it kind of works, good enough, ship it. Its the people that were never able to write high quality code to begin with that do that. It can do the job of a lazy programmer that has a low standard of quality. For a skilled developer, it can sometimes save on typing on some simple tasks, and a good developer knows when it did something wrong and be all Thanos and say "fine, I'll do it myself".

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

You assume humans don’t ever write sloppy code and Linux Torvalds has never before encountered someone wanting to merge in sloppy code before.

damn dude, did you completely fail reading and comprehension? because you're replying to a link to me pointing that exact fuckin thing out.

maybe slow down and try harder.

like, it's in the link title text, right there.

People that are actually good at programming know what good code is.

as long as they stay proficient. but prolonged exposure to AI slop tends to have a damaging effect - https://thenewstack.io/karpathy-says-developers-have-ai-psychosis-everyone-else-is-next/

so I stick with my premise: how long before it has an effect on him?

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Do you completely fail at critical thinking? I'll slow it down so you can understand:

  1. Linus sees sloppy code written by a human

  2. Linus sees sloppy code written by an AI

Why did #1 not corrupt him have decades, but #2 definitely will? There is no reason, sloppy code is sloppy code whether written by a human or written by an AI.

You're equating shitty developers becoming vibe coders with a skilled software engineer using a tool. I think you just don't know the difference between a junior developer and a senior software engineer. Maybe you just don't have any experience in software development and are just reading articles on random websites.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I get it, you're someone who goes along with the narratives from articles that an algorithm selected for you. I guess you just got comfy with going along AI algorithms in your information consumption so you assume others will too.

[-] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 0 points 10 hours ago

Yep, and even more important are the cases where coding models are used outside of actually producing code. Unit tests, red teaming, bug hunting and so on are all areas where LLMs can reduce the load on an experienced coder, allowing him to concentrate on the meaty stuff. Blindly being against the technology itself because big tech currently consists of a bunch of asshats is not a mature stance.

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