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this post was submitted on 02 Sep 2026
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Someone said it already: web 2.0 is only the web with capitalist entities colonizing the space. Web 2.0 going to shit is absolutely unsurprising. It is impossible for capitalist entities to not try to exploit and make it bad. They took control of web 2.0 by being middlemen, interfaces between providers and consumers, through APIs. An API is nothing spectacular: it's just one way to interface with a system, with the particularity that the system chooses what can be done, how it to be done, who can do it, etc... perfect for control. What is bluesky doing ? An app, connected to the big firehose that takes lots of resources to run and will only take more as more people will join. Bluesky is everyone doing their stuff on their own but to make it work you have to go through Bluesky's relay to make sure you don't miss something. Yes, alternative relays exist, just like alternative online retailers exist; that doesn't make Amazon disappear. The power of the Default is strong.
Bluesky is putting all the cost (storage, app dev, even moderation) on the outside and keeps an eye on the flow, because that's where data, hence money, is.
The only way to the old web, the web 1.0 or however it's called is without capitalists in it, there's no way around it. What shoul matter is how to make AT sustainable without bluesky (and any capitalist alternative), and should be the primary goal