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Pretty sad that they worked on this game for years, and a core part of the game was fixed in days.
First time?
Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallouts... all of them had extremely basic UI inventories that were fixed by modders.
I'm starting to think they do it on purpose because they work close with modders already.
I was going to say, has Bethesda ever made a good inventory management interface? It feels like they produce a minimally viable product because they know they can crowdsource a variety of options from modders.
Don't forget Morrowind. Being able to resize the UI to suit your needs was pretty handy, but in the end inventory management also was very basic. You could filter items on Weapons, Apparel, Magic and Misc, but that was it. Good luck finding that specific potion in your endless ocean of flasks and bottles after a good Alchemy session. 😁
Oblivion actually had a functioning UI, at least in relation to the others, it just had the UI elements at a size that you could see them from a mile away.
Hence the need for new dev leadership.
Todd Howard has an alien brain so he thinks differently when it comes to UI design
I don't think Todd is designing the UI lol
Todd is too busy making it so we can climb that mountain over there to care about UI
Standard Bethesda
Design the whole game so that it’s equally bad on all platforms then rely on modders to make it functional on PC
And by standard, you mean bad outright. Bethesda doesn't get away with QOL improvements that every other major game company figured out years ago.
I really wish this was Howards swan song instead of Elder Scrolls 6. Bethsoft is in dire need of new leadership.
I mean they are making games for literally everyone. It was only ever going to be a watered down theme park.
That's the direction that Howard took the company.
lol seriously? they had 6 million people play starfield literally days after release and it was the highest selling game on steam before early access even started. theres no way they are in "dire need of new leadership" 😂😂
I’m sure the shareholders don’t think so, and a lot of the fans are fine. Starfield is the RPG equivalent of Madden 2024 and some folks were expecting Football Manager. Doesn’t mean anyone has to like it who loved old Bethesda games.
I’m pretty sure OP means that THEY want Bethesda to have new leadership and, me too
Among my top ten favorite games: Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim Fallout 3 Fallout new vegas Fallout 4
Starfield is definitely fallout/elder scrolls in space. Morrowind and fallout new vegas, despite being very dated, I think are better than what I’ve seen so far in Starfield
I’m still enjoying the game and think your comparison is overtly insulting to the game. We aren’t going to get that old magic back. Every game franchise gets watered down as the years go by in an attempt to maximize market share, it’s just a fact of life, and part of the ecosystem that gives us games in the first place.
Give it a few months and grab some mods and it’ll be just like to good old days
I get that we shouldn’t have to do that, but actually we kinda do. Better than not having a game at all.
Yeah but don't you realize that the UI sucks and therefore Todd Howard and all of the leadership team needs to be fired?!
starfield isnt even in the same universe as madden 24. thats an insane comparison lol
True.
Starfield is set in the future.
Bethesda did start out by making the first Madden game though.
Both are mass market theme park games. Madden has a different pricing model but make no mistake the type of gamer (not genre) target audience is largely overlapping. These are games for casual players first
Sales does not equal quality
well the game is quality so whats ur point?
I mean sure. If you enjoy bare bones winning no matter what and consider that a quality game, then yeah it's a game with that quality.
If you seriously believe sales equals quality, you're going to be in for a shock after highschool.
thats not what i mean, regardless of sales its a quality game
That's not what you mean? High sales was your entire point. Now it's not? Lol
nope, i said the game was quality. check your reading comprehension because sales wasnt apart of that reply at all
"Sales wasn't a part of that reply at all".
well the game is quality so whats ur point?
please point out to everyone where sales is mentioned in this comment. oh you cant? hmm weird, maybe because sales wasnt mention in this comment you replied to?
"please completey ignore everything I said but that one thing" I can see following discussions is difficult for you.
You go argue with over stupid shit with someone else. It ain't me, kid.
two seperate comments. funny. you seem the one who cant keep up with convos
The mod came out on the 5th, I wasn't expecting anyone to make a similar mod THIS fast.
I went on to the Nexus to try to find a mod that wouldn't at least improve the inventory UI a bit, specifically one that adds value per mass stat. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw someone had made SkyUI/FallUI type of mod already. The mod author is fucking insane for being able to make the mod that fast.
Seriously! Either Bethesda gives modders a sneak peak, or the UI code for Fallout & Starfield are pretty similar since they're on the Creation engine.
I would say it's because it's basically the same game as fallout 4. It feels dated and like it's just a skin/mod of FO4. The 2 hours I have played are good but still doesn't feel revolutionary.
I don't remember how long it took but I had SkyUI on my first playthrough at launch of Skyrim.
There's a reason why people said things like "are you ready for the new modding platform from Bethesda!?".
It's actually very similar to Reddit and their mods, well former mods anyway. Profiting off of free labor.