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[-] FishFace@piefed.social -2 points 2 weeks ago

At the end of 20 years a child becomes an adult, who will (on average) be a net producer. It's true that children cost more in work put into raising them than older adults take in work to look after them, yet it is a fact of life that one working human is capable of producing more stuff than just that which they themselves needs or makes use of - otherwise it would be impossible to raise children. This should be obvious, and means that the problem of an increasing birth rate, from this perspective, is at most temporary.

But I didn't say we should have high birth rates, I said that the problems of low birth rates are not due to capitalism.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Land isn't unlimited. Physical resources aren't unlimited. For example while a person can manufacture more batteries, with more people on the planet each battery will be more expensive for everyone because each is vying for the same limited resources that are used to make a battery.

I also wouldn't say that low birthrate is caused by capitalism but by over population. No economic system can sustain unlimited growth. When too many are competing for too few resources, there is no time for families.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social -1 points 2 weeks ago

You are not talking about what I was talking about, my friend.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The problem you describe as "temporary" implies that once your children are grown, they don't have further children that will use more resources.

A worker in a growing population can somehow support 4 children and 2 parents (6 dependents) yet supporting only 2 parents and no children (2 dependents) is a problem?

So no, it's not "temporary". It's a pyramid that eventually grows such that the foundation must crumble from the weight of everyone above.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

You are still talking about growth. I am comparing two scenarios: one where the population shrinks (and therefore gets older on average) and one where our doesn't, and remains the same average age. I am not saying we need to grow the population forever, and never have.

I suggest you reread my comments to see where you've misunderstood, but it's up to you.

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