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Mainstream politicians express alarm while lead candidate in Saxony-Anhalt welcomes congratulations from Elon Musk

Mainstream politicians around Europe have expressed alarm after the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) swept to a historic state election victory in Germany, while nationalist figures cheered the result as a mandate for change.

While falling just short of an absolute majority, the AfD surged into first place in the Saxony-Anhalt state election on Sunday, exit polls ⁠showed, putting the far right within reach ​of power at ‌the state level for ‌the first time since the second world war.

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[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Please describe to me how immigration is a problem that needs to be dealt with rather than allowing for visa free movement between borders. And how immigration is anything but a means to control the average person and prevent them from seeking a better life elsewhere?

[-] AartKwarktaart@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, I'll try!

There is nothing inherently wrong about borders. You're probably very happy your house has a border. Wolf packs have borders. Borders are useful.

As I see it, borders are physical manifestations of a social construct. You know, like money, flags, medals, wedding gowns, etc etc. And just like all of these, borders have a social purpose for the tribe within. In their case it's to distinguish between "us" and "them". Why make that distinction? Because tribes must pool their resources to thrive. That includes material things like food and shelter, but also immaterial resources like labor, safety, clean water, you name it.

But sharing has two hard requirements: reciprocity and trust. Without either, you cannot pool your resources without risk of getting taken advantage of. Why invest in a common good that might not be there for you when YOU need it? That's why reciprocity and trust are so fundamental to human relations! We built an entire society about signals of trust, about showing other people you are "us" and not "them".

Long story short, tribes ("us") guard their pooled resources from outsiders ("them"). That's why Germans can't collect their pension from Mongolian state funds. Nationalities, then, are a shorthand for calculating whether a person has contributed to a tribe's resources and is therefore an "us".

There's a ton of valid(!) arguments to be made about which kinds of borders are fair, or which immigrants deserve our pooled resources. But that's not my point here, I'm here to argue that visa are useful and serve a purpose (which is not bullying outsiders, but protecting INsiders)

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Hmmmm sounds like exclusionary tribal bullshit ideas to me. Specifically based off of ones locating from the global north where resources are hoarded rather than pooled.

[-] AartKwarktaart@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Ah, you dont really want an explanation. You wanr to be mad.

[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No I want you to realize your view point on borders is directly based from a hoarders mentality.

Specifically that that the current migration crisises are generally direct results of northern and western imperialism. Every time I hear a European complain about migrants, all I think is that your grandparents shouldn't have fucking colonized their country, then maybe they wouldn't be there.

And don't get me started on the US, fuck the US.

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