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submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) by destructdisc@lemmy.world to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

Because who needs traffic calming measures and bollards and roundabouts, right?

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[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 21 hours ago

The "flow of green" thing doesn't work for a couple reasons. One, imagine one driver doing the speed limit catching every green light. Now imagine, 2 blocks back, there's another car doing the speed limit, but they're catching reds because they're behind the target car. So they are now incentivised to speed to catch up to the car that is reaping the benefit, so they too, can reap the benefit.

But then you get local businesses saying that if someone never has to stop, what they pay extra to be on a corner and run advertisements on billboards or other signage isn't paying off because people aren't being stopped there. They might as well pay less to not be on the corner. By letting traffic flow free, people are getting more miles out of their tyres and brake pads, so your auto body shops are losing money, too. On top of that, ICE engines use more gas when they have to stop and start, which is why most people can go, at most, 1-2 lights before stopping, because your local city government doesn't think you're paying enough for petrol.

[-] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The "flow of green" thing doesn't work for a couple reasons. One, imagine one driver doing the speed limit catching every green light. Now imagine, 2 blocks back, there's another car doing the speed limit, but they're catching reds because they're behind the target car. So they are now incentivised to speed to catch up to the car that is reaping the benefit, so they too, can reap the benefit.

What….?

If you’re stopped at one red light, all the others will be timed to be green when you get to the next. If you speed from the red, you’ll only hit the next red. You seem to not comprehend how the system works.

These systems have been around for decades already.

The downside is if you’re traveling against the traffic (like leaving downtown in the morning), you’ll hit every light.

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Timing traffic lights is a science, and it makes a huge difference.

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