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[–] alvvayson@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't read German, but we have a similar legal system in the Netherlands.

Most likely, these people committed some crime during a previous protest, such as illegally entering private property or vandalism. Often they will get sentences that are conditional.

If there is evidence to believe they are conspiring to commit a similar illegal act, then the conditional part of the sentence gets triggered.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nope, it's actually only that the police has reason to believe that they might commit a crime.

No need for them to be prior offenders or anything. The police can arrest anyone at any time if they believe you might commit a crime. And even comparatively minor things like blocking traffic counts.

[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels like a half assed Minority Report plotline.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Okay, so what cool plot idea do we use to determine who might commit crimes?"

"IDK, just anyone maybe? People who use the internet?"

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Same way I look for weed in illegal countries; find hippies and dreadlocks.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well they did identify themselves as members of a group that publicly announced it would continue to commit crimes.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, no. Blocking traffic is no crime. It's just a misdemeanor (Verwaltungsübertretung).

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really something for the lawyers but it could be considered "Nötigung" (§ 181 StGB) and/or "Gefährlicher Eingriff in den Straßenverkehr" (§ 315b StGB).

Pretty sure if it's in the StGB it's a "crime" (Straftat).

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In English, at least for the US, there are typically only misdemeanors and felonies, and both are crimes. There are also violations, but those are usually civil, not criminal (parking tickets, for example).

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry, mistranslation. I meant violations. Over here we only split into violations and crimes.

Violations cover most things done with a car/in traffic without actively harming someone.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, in English (in the US, generally) we'd call that a civil violation. Or a civil action where a lawsuit is brought by a private citizen, like suing someone for damaging your property. It's against the law, but probably not going to be prosecuted by the government.