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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by verifytheposter@leminal.space to c/matrix@lemmy.ml

Matrix Metadata Problem: the server sees everything except your messages

People pick Matrix because of end-to-end encryption. But E2EE only protects message content โ€” everything around it is plaintext.

The server sees:

  • Your ID, IP, client type and version, device you use
  • Your presence, typing status, read receipts
  • Which rooms you join and when you join/leave
  • Who else is in those rooms โ†’ your entire social graph
  • Room names, topics, avatars (all plaintext state)
  • For every message: who sent it, which room, a millisecond timestamp, type, size

And federation copies most of that to every other server whose users are in the room. Your "social footprint" isn't one copy โ€” it's as many as there are servers.

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[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Matrix was always a terrible protocol made by Zionists to embed themselves into government and corporate channels whilst posturing itself as 'secure' and independent (self-hosted). Critics said over and over: it's shit. Now those duped are getting defensive. Good ploy mossad. Overall it's been very effective.

This isn't support for Signal either. It's shit too.

The problem is users. Always has been.

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

i have been convinced. what do you think it's a better implementation? simplex?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago

Not just made by Zionists, made by notorious Israeli spyware company Amdocs.

And after moving to the UK the devs deny that Amdocs was a spyware company despite it having multiple massive spying scandals such as wiretapping White House phones https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-384876

this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2026
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