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[-] HieroProtagonist@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago

Stalin and Mao where conservatives?

[-] theolodis@feddit.org -4 points 11 hours ago

You mean because of the 5 billion deaths they caused, if we sum up all people that died in that time?

Compared to Netanyahu, Stalin and Mao were angels.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Damn, killed over half the current population of the world eh?

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

How many people did Mao intentionally kill? If you want to count all deaths by famine, you'd end up with crazy numbers in teh US too, specially if you'd add deaths by lack of medical insurancw or other avoidable deaths. But do we say "President X killed Y people (sum of above)?

[-] Palmik7@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I desperately need to know who your plug is, so I accidentally don't end up on the same thing you're clearly on. Seriously man, wtf

[-] dwalin@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I think he meant the between 40 to 80 million that died because of the mao regime. https://factsanddetails.com/china/cat2/sub6/item1081.html

And the 1.7 million deaths by gulag alone under Stalin

https://factually.co/fact-checks/history/stalin-soviet-union-death-toll-estimates-1920s-1953-ddd053

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I am just saying that it's ridiculous to add deaths by famine to their death tolls. We're not doing that for any other leader, and it's nothing but anti communist propaganda, otherwise we'd be doing it for people like american presidents too.

Also the website you're linking is not very objective, the Wikipedia article about Mao gives a way more balanced picture.

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 9 hours ago

Stalin was literally fascist conservative though, like he got into power by pushing for The Old Ways and murdering all his competitors

[-] dwalin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I agree, i was just clarifying to the previous commenter who apparently didnt know about the gulag.

[-] TheNextMuon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Who caused 5 billion deaths? You sure mean million?

[-] theolodis@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

I am jokingly exaggerating the number to show how ridiculous it is to count deaths by famine that was not intentionally caused by Mao to his death toll.

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