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[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Cars used to be made to get you somewhere. Now they cost 4 times as much and are full of government-mandated surveillance equipment and random gadgets that are expensive to fix when they break. And they're twice as heavy.

The only thing that's gotten better is safety.

I miss when cars were cars

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Honesty the best era for cars is around 2003-2016 depending on the manufacturer. The older ones from around 2008 or so are especially good.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

What government mandated surveillance equipment are you referring to?

[-] Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

From 7 July, all new cars and vans sold in the EU must pack a fresh batch of safety features, including infrared cameras that watch the driver's face.

[-] cro_magnon_gilf@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Exactly what I was referring to. Along with GPS tracking that alerts you if you're going over the speed limit. Totally won't be used for anything else, right?

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The government mandates all telecommunications to be intercepted and and monitored. Car manufacturers willingly installed celluar modems in their cars for OTA updates and their own data tracking reasons... therefore, the government has surveillance equipment in your car.

[-] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Also the EU mandated driver monitoring so you can't even drive tired anymore (yay for repression), at least let me drive home from work.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Thats mandated in the US aswell, suppose to be implemented by 2030.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe not govt mandated, but used by the governments. New cars have infotainment with GPS trackers, cameras etc. Toyota and Teslas were the worse from a year or two ago for selling your data to companies, especially insurance companies.

A week ago alstate data came out that they paid millions to many apps for your phone to track you like life360, gasbuddy and so on.

Don't get me started on TVs. Watch gamers nexus on LG TVs. They store 4gb of data including audio, screenshots - even if it's not connected to the internet. Doctor's offices, companies or other places that rely on hipa or trade secrets have these TVs sitting around.

Your wifi routers uses beam forming to track you around your house and can be accurate enough to make out complex shapes like faces.

Anyways, I came here to say I have the same generation a4 avant with the 3.2l, I think b7. Just the right loudness exhaust from factory when you floor it and at right rpms it reverberates like a super car because of the vvt.

[-] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Now they cost 4 times as much

Pricing on cars with similar features and performance have been going up slower than general inflation, but as you mention they keep increasing the features/performance of the base models.

When I was really getting into cars in the 90's, it seemed like the base models of economy brands were pretty barebones. But over time what previously was optional became standard: air conditioning, automatic transmission, power locks/windows, floor mats, a decent car stereo, cruise control, etc.

And the things that used to differentiate luxury brands/models just became standard over time: traction control, good acceleration/handling, clear coat over the paint, rust resistance. In the 90's, it was still possible to buy a vehicle that took more than 10 seconds to accelerate to 60mph (~100km/h).

And of course, a bunch of safety stuff became standard in large part because of regulation: airbags, anti-lock brakes, crumple zones, backup cameras. And fuel efficiency has gotten much better on the engineering side, for any given level of performance and vehicle weight. Emissions have similarly improved by regulation.

So cars have gotten so much better, while basically getting more expensive slightly slower than general inflation. So it's hard to compare apples to apples between decades.

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