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Getting over the listening hump? (sh.itjust.works)
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How do you improve your listening skills to get to listening to native content with ease, assuming vocabulary and grammar are not the issue?

Here's what I've found does not work:

  • Slow/easy language podcasts. Yes, it's important to get started with stuff like that, but it's extremely boring and limited, and it does not get me over the listening hump. The listening hump is all the phonetic and semantic and grammatical changes made to language when it is spoken at speed. By definition, I am NOT exposed to that in slow language podcasts and so listening to an infinite amount of slow podcasts will not teach me.

  • Re-listening to work I know. I've found working from transcribed shows that I can understand them all, but it's from a freaky ability to recall the dialogue, not from a newfound ability to DECODE the dialogue. The flip side of that is if there is something I don't understand the first time through, it doesn´t become more intelligible on multiple passthroughs. So I read the transcript and then it becomes yet another thing I remember.

So I'm wondering if there's an entirely different approach. Like, maybe if I tried reading aloud more often, I'd naturally fall into these elisions and ways of speaking, and having produced them naturally myself, I would hear them better? Because right now, my language production is zero. In fact, my language consumption is entirely passive.

Tell me what you did to get over the hump.

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[-] Ashtear@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

The game changer for me was switching from podcasts to videos. I started this most recent stint of study a few years ago at the upper beginner/lower intermediate level, so slow-speed content was already at the point where it wasn't helpful. But because I couldn't control the speed of input easily like I could with reading, I kept blanking out during podcasts and getting more frustrated than anything. There aren't a ton of intermediate Japanese podcasts, so it wasn't long before I ran out of options.

I finally started to try videos, and it was this What's in My Emergency Mini-Pouch? one that made it click for me: when I'm being shown what the speaker is talking about and pre-loading expected vocab in my brain, it's far easier for me to keep pace. I already had the vocab in my brain, it was just a matter of connecting auditory input to that database. This sort of content is like a children's TV show, or even an unboxing video.

If you're able to find this kind of content at your level, I think it could help. Just keep in mind it will require focused, active listening.

A couple other notes, if your brain is anything like mine (or, in other words, things I would tell past me):

  • I'd avoid re-listening right now. Pattern recall overriding decoding is definitely a thing, and you'll need practice in both phonetic automaticity and word processing at speed to get your decoder online. My research has told me that needs bulk input. The only exception here, since you mention you're not producing, is that your familiar content might be a good place to start shadowing. Flashcard sentences are another good spot.
  • Interesting content tends to come later, and at some point you just have to put in the reps. The intersection of "interesting" and "appropriate for my level" dips dramatically as one moves into the intermediate stage until, eventually, native content opens up. You might have to stick with easy and/or boring content for a while until listening becomes effortless, and you move from "what did they say?" to "I don't know that word."
[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think, reading all these comments, is that my problem is that I'm very much avoiding that lost-at-sea confusion that I need to swim through to get to sandbanks, then islands, then continents of understanding.

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