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[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

I shall nerd.

Warhammer 40k includes a very long timeline, thus the name. Sometime before now and the 'Horus Heresy' (the event that incapacitated the emperor, 10,000 years before the current time in universe) humanity reaches a golden ages of prosperity. Reaches across the stars and sets up a thriving interstellar federation. Things are more Star Trek-y than they are Warhammer at this point. Technology is extreme and its around this time that the majority of technology existing in the universe was developed. But, artificial intelligence was one of the creations of the time and things didn't go fantastic.

A lot of the historical records are lost, but eventually a race called the 'Men of Gold', an augmented subrace of humans, popped up. They created the Men of Stone (also augmented) who in turn created the Men of Iron, artificial intelligence. The Men of Iron eventually overthrew their creators and started an intergalactic war with humanity that took an alliance of multiple races to quell. After that point, artificial intelligence became outlawed and humanity fell into stagnation. When the Warp itself became more difficult (and eventually impossible) to navigate, humanity fell further into ruin. Its from that situation that the Emperor reveals himself and begins his nonsense.

[-] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

the Emperor reveals himself and begins his nonsense.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Also, right after the Men of Iron were put down, all the other races that had been too scared to attack us in our prime, stabbed us in the back, causing all the xenophobia

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

(Minor nitpick - while we don't know for sure about the men of gold, the men of stone were sentient robots (or at least, the one that's still around is fully mechanical (and is posing as a servitor)))

[-] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I was under the assumption that they were augmented humans. After checking the wiki, apparently there's so little information about them that they just say:

According to dimly remembered legends and the few scraps of actual historical record that survived the Age of Strife, the Men of Stone were an artificially-created or augmented faction or sub-species of Humanity who had been engineered by the equally legendary and poorly understood Men of Gold.

Neat. Today I learned. Basically just "Who the fuck knows"

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There's a short story titled "Ancient History" that (with a heavy dose of inference/speculation) seems to suggest the Men of Stone were humans engineered specifically to have no/a greatly reduced warp presence in order to avoid attracting demons while navigating the warp.

And (with an even heftier amount of speculation) the attributes seemingly ascribed to the Men of Stone line up suspiciously well with what's known of the Leagues of Votann.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

Were you referring to this guy?

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/UR-025

Because then i have to nitpick your nitpicking since he is a man of iron, not stone.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ah damn you're right, teach me to 40k while tipsy!

[-] gens@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

AFAIK AI can be corrupted by chaos. That's probably why it went rogue and why it was banned. Well "banned", as big ships and STC-s probably have ai in them.

It's a grimdark setting. Everybody sucks, the Empire Of Man too.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Human AI can be, we so no such issue with the Leagues of Vortan, T’au, or Necron AIs.

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