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[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago

“I do not believe in lesser evilism” and “There is nothing hypocritical in opposing the state and opposing the state” don’t reflect reality.

Stop dancing around with this idealistic theoretical scenario. Simple question: in November 2022, who did you support for the presidential election?

This isn’t a thought experiment, or philosophical grandstanding. There were only 4 choices at that time, and all but one helped Trump.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Stop dancing around with this idealistic theoretical scenario. Simple question: in November 2022, who did you support for the presidential election?

You mean November 2024. I voted third party.

This isn’t a thought experiment, or philosophical grandstanding. There were only 4 choices at that time, and all but one helped Trump.

"Helped?" If I had been dead, or if I had never been born, Trump would have received the same number of votes. My vote in no way "helped" Trump. If not voting for Trump "helped" him, then my vote also "helped" Harris by the same logic.

You're assuming that my default state is voting Democrat, as if they are somehow entitled to my vote. That is simply not true.

Ultimately, you're just trying to assert Lesser Evilism in a roundabout way, by refusing to acknowledge or discuss it. You can't allow the discussion to examine it because you can't actually defend it under scrutiny. That's why you talk about "philosophical grandstanding."

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Yes, 2024, my mistake. It does feel like so much longer than that.

As I suspected. Voting third party in the general election in November just helped Trump win. Hopefully that third party vote wasn’t for Jill “Russian plant” Stein.

Come the general election, if your default state wasn’t voting for the Democrat, you helped the Republicans win. May as well not voted.

Primary for the most progressive candidate you want, but once the reality of the general election comes, there’s only one clear choice.

I’m done trying to reason with you here. Have a good day.

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

As I suspected. Voting third party in the general election in November just helped Trump win.

Well, no, that's not true at all. Of course Harris being pro-genocide helped Trump win, but I don't expect that you'll be bringing that up anytime soon.

Hopefully that third party vote wasn’t for Jill “Russian plant” Stein.

I love how Libs repeat things that are clearly unfounded, but also openly ignore acurate data when it paints their own party in a bad light.

Primary for the most progressive candidate you want, but once the reality of the general election comes, there’s only one clear choice.

Agreed. Anti-genocide was the only clear choice, but both Democrats and Republicans decided that the lives of people in other countries weren't worth worrying about, if they couldn't go back to brunch.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

You never began trying to reason with me here but ok. You just asserted your position without backing it up in any way and completely ignoring my criticism.

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