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the problem is how many/who immigration to allow in, and where they have to live, how much assistance/benefits will they get, etc.
then how to integrate them into your society, language learning etc.
and that's legal immigration. and that already, has backlash, because why are these people getting so many social services that aren't even available to your own citizens?
illegal immigration is a whole other thing. because by definition, that's not-selective in either population, location, or anything else.
politically the problem the far left things open borders and infinite resources should exist, and the far right things immigration shoudl be disallowed entirely or only be for the rich, and no social services shoudl be given to immigrant.
Your reasoning is one of the worst thought ones I've read.
So your entire assertion above is assuming that everyone else doesn't have to deal with the problem of immigration, so they can throw peanuts from afar without dealing with that problem?
I'm pretty sure everyone here lives somewhere with immigrants. So that's a strange thing to accuse everyone else of.
There are special interest funds and help for all kinds of groups, private and public. Citizens have more social services that aren't available to all immigrants by default. There has never been any data to support this assertion that immigrants receive the benefit of more social funds than citizens.
I’m pretty sure everyone here lives somewhere with immigrants.
That's where youre' totally wrong. immigrates tend to congregate in specific areas, often for their own normal reasons. They are not 'evenly distributed' across the country. Nor, should they be.
It's a complex problem that everyone here is trying to reduce to moral issue, which tells me they have no clue what they are talking about and have never dealt with it. They just want to grandstand about it.
But having a large number of immigrants dumped in your town/city has lots of problems and acknowledign and protesting that isn't horrible and racist.
Do they have a special private fund? In USA over here, we just pass a special budget and drop millions into housing and helping immigrants, meanwhile when it comes to providing social services for own citizens, all the sudden the money isn't available... my own state does this all the time and people are rightfully outraged. But at least my state is competent enough to distribute immigration populations and not dump them all on a single town/city, or if there is a problem they will re-locate them to a more suitable area and there are areas that are more than happy to have them. Though... you'd quickly notice none of this areas are wealthy and white... it's all the poorer cities/towns that are desperate for population growth because they'd be shrinking if it weren't for immigration.
There is plenty of data for that in the USA. I can't speak to the UK. But if you allocate a 10 million for special immigration funding... and then cut school health/budgets... what would you call that? why is that 10 million not going to help the school/healthcare budgets? also services... which will be used by the immigrants... that's the issue. we only have so many resources and people naturally will be pissed off if you are cutting their budgets will giving money to immigrants who just got here and may or may not even end up part of the population.