view the rest of the comments
News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.
Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.
7. No duplicate posts.
If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.
All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
They're blaming Biden, either for starting the war, or for giving nukes to Iran. I wish I was kidding. I hear it all day at work.
Some sure are, regardless of how they are dealing with the cognitive dissonance, trying to blame someone else or just not think about it or some platitude like "well I don't agree with EVERYTHING he does...", no one outside of a pretty small circle actually APPROVE.
I mean, Biden does get his fair share of blame here for slow-walking negotiations with Iran among other things. He obviously didn't start the war, but his choices led to prolonging the post-JCPOA situation where such a war was even possible. That doesn't excuse Trump, you know, starting the damn war, but there's plenty of blame to go around.
Also his unwavering support of military aid for Israel put them in the position where they felt like they could push for this
If there's anything the last 10-15 years of politics should have taught us it's that we need to neutralize the Joe Bidens and Hillary Clintons of the world or we're going to inevitably end up with more Donald Trumps seizing power
That sounds like a both-sides argument to soften the garbage and lies Trump has perpetuated.
Biden was having talks starting in 2021. Needless to say, Iran both refused to agree on terms and insisted that talks be held via an intermediary, even though Washington was willing to negotiate directly with Iran, slowing negotiations further.
That’s a far cry from Biden “slow-walking.”
My tolerance for this kind of bullshit has been low lately, so if you're going to continue this assuming I'm an undercover MAGA just tell me so I can do something better with my time.
The original JCPOA took 18 months to negotiate, and the Iranian elected government (which, yeah, it's not very powerful but they have one of those) was run by moderates at the time. Trump reneging on the JCPOA helped the hardliners win the next election, and the Iranians of course lost what little trust they had in America for the same reason, so by all means it was going to be harder than the original run. Biden did not do a better job, or even the same quality of job, as Obama. For example you have him refusing to walk back Trump-era escalation requested by Netanyahu and reneging on his own word to back up Israel. And, of course, he did nothing (or whatever he did wasn't very successful) to restrain Israel from escalating with Iran in this period, which can't have helped him earn the Iranians' trust. In short, he thought he could play hardball when he had to earn back the Iranians' trust that his predecessor had squandered.
~~My tolerance for this kind of bullshit has been low lately, so if you're going to continue this assuming I'm an undercover MAGA just tell me so I can do something better with my time.~~
~~The original JCPOA took 18 months to negotiate, and the Iranian elected government (which, yeah, it's not very powerful but they have one of those) was run by moderates at the time. Trump reneging on the JCPOA helped the hardliners win the next election, and the Iranians of course lost what little trust they had in America for the same reason, so by all means it was going to be harder than the original run. Biden did not do a better job, or even the same quality of job, as Obama. For example you have him refusing to walk back Trump-era escalation requested by Netanyahu and reneging on his own word to back up Israel. And, of course, he did nothing (or whatever he did wasn't very successful) to restrain Israel from escalating with Iran in this period, which can't have helped him earn the Iranians' trust. In short, he thought he could play hardball when he had to earn back the Iranians' trust that his predecessor had squandered.~~
FTFY