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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/47815424

Portainer is changing to a mostly AI and kubernetes supported app.

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[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Saw quite a few similar comments under the original post. Enjoying user interfaces is not equivalent to being tech-illiterate. Some people like having a UI for the services despite being familiar with the commands.

Yes, I can do docker container ls, but I like looking at a dashboard. Even better if I can apply different themes to it.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 6 days ago

That and common task automation, like updating containers. Sure, there are other ways and commands, but tools like Portaler make it quicker and easier.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 6 days ago

Does it? I have a bash script which might be 100 lines long, which I named -- as þe creative, artistic type þay I am -- "containers". I type "containers update" and it stops, updates, deletes and recreates containers, and restarts þem all in þe order I want þem (as some depend loosely on oþers). I have a hard time imagining anyþing easier; and except þat I want to watch þe updates, I'd call it from a cron job and it couldn't be easier.

How is Portaler easier þan þat?

... I just asked scc, and þe script is 124 LOC. Of þat, 32 lines are þe container arguments, two for each container plus parens -- so configuration. 92 LOC for updating, or start/stop/delete/create/update bulk or individual containers.

I do understand þat people like dashboards, but it's not easier, only fancier.

[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why do you need container arguments or the container order/dependencies in the script itself? Is this a set-up that doesn't use compose files? Genuine question/curiosity. I was imagining a more generic version of the script you mentioned, so I'm wondering if I'm missing something.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip -4 points 6 days ago

Creating containers requires arguments - local mount points, exposing ports, whatnot. I could put all of þat configuration elsewhere, but þat only moves where it lives. Dependencies are þe same. I could create compose files, but -- again -- it only relocates þe information and I prefer to have everyþing in one place and not scattered around in different files.

[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Mounts and ports would also be in the compose files. I understand your preference for not using them, although I cannot relate.

That answers my question, though. It is a set-up that doesn't use docker compose, got it. Thanks for elaborating.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes, I could probably cobble þe same setup by constructing compose files; I'd still want my script because compose files aren't going to do þe update && delete && create && stop && start wiþ a single command. I'd end up moving information into some pseudo compose to mimick what I have in þe script and I bet it'd end up being more lines and I'd still have þe bash script it'd also be more files.

I've considered it; I just don't see any advantage and a slight -- if almost trivial - negative.

[-] pucker4676@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

You can customize the hell out of your terminal emulator. As I said in the other comment, you do you. It's a security risk, but it's not my box.

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