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Entry #1: the entire .ml user base
(lemmy.nz)
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I don't get paid sis.
The intense joy I experience upon witnessing .ml users being dragged into the 3 letter agency tickle chambers are a reward in and of itself.
Edit: it is a joke, like I assume my perceived CIA salary is
Celebrating 3 letter agencies abducting folks with political opinions different than yours.
Cool and normal. Very freedom. Much democracy. Wow.
A majority of us democrats would prefer living a military junta to anything approaching socialism, this user is a foremost example of that
You aware he's likely Danish? US exceptionalism at work even in this argument
he's salivating at the thought of turning his perceived political enemies over to the alphabet boys; not a huge leap to identify him as 'spiritually american'
Sistah, you accused me of receiving payment from the CIA. I assumed it was a joke and of course I am gonna play in on that joke. C'mon now.
"Hahaha I hope you get tortured to death" Yeah great "joke" my guy
They joked about me being in the CIA. I took part in the joke.
If you can't take the heat run.
What? I just described your joke back to you. How thin-skinned are you?
The Danes are famous for loving torture, so it is no wonder you find the concept so endearing. I hope you one day get to have the encounter with Danish police the average left-wing activist has.
It was less a joke and more an observation that you are acting more invested in defending us empire than the people actually getting paid to do that.
Being opposed to the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not supporting the Usan empire. I am European. I don't want to be invaded by Russia.
you seem awfully interested in making lists of antiwar leftists for someone not supporting the usian empire.
your angle isn't even original. arch-conservative anticommunists have been making lists of my comrades along with our places of employment for years now.
it may all be a joke to you but in the last couple years i've literally had 3 letter agencies kidnapping people off the street outside my apartment. i've had comrades doxxed by zionists for attending protests. there's been law enforcement showing up to intimidate my comrades at their day jobs, asking probing question about our organizing work.
Have those actions you mentioned been directly related to support for Russia?
It might seem like a joke to YOU, but trying to push "neutrality" in this conflict, when Russia is invading a country close by and making incursions into other countries nearby, is an existential threat to my country, its citizens and my family. Nothing exists in a vaccum. You are pro-Russia, not anti-war.
none of those state crackdowns i mentioned have been related to russia, its been for feeding people, opposing genocide, tenant organizing, and being immigrants.
i've had comrades getting arrested for this long before trump; granted under trump was the first time i saw someone get dissapeared for almost a year even after their bail was paid.
classic doublespeak; war is peace clearly
Ok, I am sorry to hear. I have many issues myself with USA and it is anything but a model for a nation.
You cannot simply allow an aggressive nation to get their wants with consequences. Or ideally, at all.
the us has been at war for over 90% of its history, i don't see how the us can escape the label of 'aggressive nation' by any measure. it would be nice if every other country stopped collaborating with the us and israel. every former us president should be in prison as the war criminals they are.
i am opposed to workers dying in inter-capitalist conflicts.
The nations of Europe are not Usa. Ukraine is not Usa. The life of Ukranians won't be easier if Russia is allowed their goals.
Personally I think every single treaty Usa signed with native Indians should be honored. That, or some combination of land grants and privileges.
russia and the US/EU/NATO are all capitalist imperial powers and ukrainians are now caught in the middle dying for the geopolitical interests of both sides.
the life of ukranians is already hell, i am opposed to people dying in inter-capitalist conflicts. as long as its workers killing workers over lines on a map on behalf of capitalists it's a tragedy that i want to see end.
the world would be a better place if the US as it is today ceased to exist
Danes are the biggest dickriders of the US around. Even after all Trump did they still talk about being the US' "closest ally." Denmark is completely bought in on the US propaganda.
So one politicians that says a stupid statement immediately means the entire country it bought by the US?
Wow, racism much.
Do you know what the word race means? Do you think Danes are a race?
They can be. Races are, mainly, a social construct. But me pointing out the popular position amongst the majority of danish political parties is not racism. Some people just like to reach.
Race is a bourgeois theory, I think you're trying to get at the Marxist conception of the nation.
I think we mean the same? Race is a social construct, like whiteness. Its not something thats really inherent to anything, so there could be made a construct called "the Danish race." There isn't, but in some alternative reality there could be.
Or I might be misunderstanding you
I recommend checking the links. The theory of "race" is a bourgeois idea based on genetics, the theory of nations is a Marxist understanding of historically constituted peoples.
Right, I think we might be misunderstanding each other, because I looked at the links. How does "race being an idea based on genetics" go against "race is a social construct"? Gender is also based, in part, on some biology, but it is still a social construct. Gender, like race (as far as I understand it, and from what I got from the linked texts, though I only skimmed them, so my apologies if I am missing something big) uses genetics as a post-hoc justification for its existence.
Gender is a social expression of one's felt sense of self. Race is pseudoscience used to categorize people into different "races" on the basis of genetics, but the Marxist understanding of nations is a more correct understanding of different groups of peoples with common history, language, and culture. The danish are not a "race," they are a nation. Nations are very real, just as is gender, as is class, but "race" is not.
I really feel like we're talking past each other. A person can express gender however they wish. It is also a social construct.
Right. Its something that society makes up without any real material basis. A social construction. Like gender. The patriarchy and all that.
Now I think youre the one conflating things. Sex is generally the thing people describe as "real" though it is also not a binary. Gender is the social construct, boys are blue and trucks girls are pink and ponies. "Gender" isn't real beyond the social realm, just like race isn't (and nations for that sense. We can construct a national identity around all sorts of stuff, the stuff does exist, the nation is socially constructed)
I must admit it really seems to me like we're talking past each other. Or I hope we do, because otherwise I would be worried you believe in the gender binary. Im sure I'm misunderstanding something
I don't think you're quite understanding me. I'm not saying the "gender binary is real," I am saying that gender as a social expression of one's felt sense of self is real. The identification of oneself as gender nonconforming is a real, social aspect. Race is not. The social relations we all have are material processes. Capitalism is a material process. It sounds like you are dangerously close to suggesting trans identity is idealist, but this is fundamentally incorrect. I know you aren't directly saying this, and that you do support trans identity, but without a grounded understanding of dialectical materialism, we cannot understand how social relations function.
Using capitalism as an example, capitalism is a material social relation. You cannot directly point to capitalism, just like you cannot point to gender or nation, but these all involve concrete relations between people. This is not idealism, where we see ideas as prior to matter, but instead relations between people as concrete processes. Race is not real, it is a bourgeois theory that attempts to draw hard lines between peoples that do not exist. Ideology is another excellent example of the relation of ideas to matter:
I also recommend the work of Harry Haywood on the question of "race" vs. Nation in the context of Black Statesians.
You're mistaken. Danes are not a race.
Xenophobia is the term you were after.
Im not saying Danes are a race. Im saying race is a social construct, so there could be made such a construct such as "the danish race". There isn't, but there could be. Or otherwise im misunderstanding you
This isn't quite correct. The Danes are a nation, not a "race." Social relations are material processes, they don't disappear just because someone has a different idea. "Race" is a bourgeois theory that states that there are hard lines genetically between peoples, while the Marxist theory of nations understands them as historically constituted communities of people with a common language, culture, and economic life.
Right. I dont really see what the point of contention is. I dont think "dane" is a race (of people teehee). A racial identity or whatever one would call it could be constructed around such a concept. While most Danish politicians are trying to construct something around a national identity that lets them be racist to brown people, there is also a small group trying to do it around some pseudoscientific idea of race - mainly about drinking milk?
So again: Dane is not a race (discounting some great dogs) because races aren't really real, but because of that, one could construct the idea of a race, if it were something that would be beneficial to ones politics of whatever. And by "one" i actually mean "a bunch".
My point is generally that social relations are real, material processes. Race does not fall into that category, ideas themselves are not material processes by themselves. Nations, genders, classes, and more are real, material, social relations and processes. Race is not. I think it might be helpful for you to brush up a bit more on dialectical materialism, and I don't mean that in a demeaning manner.
Thank you for taking the time to unclear this knot. Ill look at the texts you've provided (the ones I haven't already looked at, that is). Its all much appreciated.
No problem! This is one of those subjects that isn't immediately understandable even though it seeks like it should be, so no worries!
No, the fact that that is the general refrain amongst politicians, especially the prime minister - the leader of the country - AND the fact that Denmark continues to cooperate with the US as much as possible, including getting American bases on Denmark proper, is why I consider the country to be completely subsumed by the US.
Sorry you cheap dunk sucked.
Really not dodging that old "feddit is for fascists" moniker are you?
explain to me how you're different from the republicans again?
cause ur kinda making my case for me in this whole thread
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Ah, the ol Schrodinger's Nazi trick. It was just a joke. As soon as how fucked up it is was called out.
Nothing screams "I am mentally stable" like expressing joy for torturing people.
Least psychotic liberal, folks. "Wahhh .ml is violent" shut the fuck up, loser.
Calm down.
I butt heads with .ml users semi-frequently and even I think that none of what your wrote here is funny, dude.
not funny