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[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Well, if you support the people, and the party who support genocide, can you tell why some might think you are supporting genocide?

I’m telling you that at the time of the election, many people still supported Isreal defending itself while condemning genocide.

Yeah, and today many people still do. It didn't make them the majority then, and it doesn't make them the majority now. It was obvious to see, but neither Biden nor Harris cared, and they went to great lengths to make that super clear.

When you purposefully confuse the genuinely fucked up actions of Israel but in the context of a decades long struggle with rockets, suicide bombers, etc; with the present day actual genocide - you are both diminishing the current atrocities and also rewriting history on how we got here..

Israel has been clear about their goals for a long time. I'm not diminishing the atrocites, you are. You are the one defending the genociders who raped, pillaged, stole and murderd.

There was a clear choice to lessen the harm that came to the Palestinian people during the last election, and if you failed to make that choice then no, you didn’t fight for Palestinians, you fucked them over. Own it.

I would own that, if I had done that, just like I own that I voted for child-murdering Obama on his first campaign. But I learned my lesson then.

I made the right choice, the "lets not bomb kids" choice, but neither the Democrats or Republicans were running that as an option.

Of course, something tells me that, if you voted for Harris, you won't own up to the fact that you voted for genocide, because that would require introspection.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

If you didn't vote for Harris, you effectively voted for Trump and you own the result. If you really think Harris would have been as bad as Trump then I guess you can be happy Trump won. Like I say - you do you. Can't cure stupid.

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

If you didn’t vote for Harris, you effectively voted for Trump...

Well, luckily for me, I know how elections work, and that is not how they work. I also didn't vote for Trump or Biden in the last election, does that mean you think I "effectively voted for Biden" ?

If you really think Harris would have been as bad as Trump then I guess you can be happy Trump won.

Well, if you bothered to read any of my posts, you would have known that I'm not happy that either of them won. But it seems that you'd rather just yell at people for things you misunderstand.

Like I say - you do you. Can’t cure stupid.

Is stupid the person who came to this conversation with data, facts, context, and historical knowledge? or the person who kept saying "Nuh uh, nanananana I'm not listening!" ?

I believe you can cure stupid. That's how education works. That's why I gave you facts and data, someting I'm still waiting for you to provide.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

The facts are simple: Harris better than Trump. Those were the only two actual options If you didn't vote for Harris, you helped Trump. This is very simple math. That's it. If you are smart enough to realize Harris better than Trump, but didn't vote for Harris, then you are an idiot as you helped get Trump. It doesn't get any simpler. If you still don't get it, there's no hope for you.

[-] dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

The facts are simple: Harris better than Trump.

Marginally, yes.

Those were the only two actual options...

I like how you say the "facts are simple", which I agree with, but then completely get the simple facts incorrect.

If you didn’t vote for Harris, you helped Trump. This is very simple math.

It is indeed simple math, which is why I don't understand how you can't figure it out. I was able to, and did, vote against them both. I proudly didn't help either of them. You, however, presumeably voted for more genocide, and more child-killing. Funny how you never seem to want to talk about that, but instead keep getting angry at me for voting against those things.

That’s it. If you are smart enough to realize Harris better than Trump, but didn’t vote for Harris, then you are an idiot as you helped get Trump. It doesn’t get any simpler.

Thats not true at all, but, as simple as it is, you still don't seem to get it.

If you still don’t get it, there’s no hope for you.

Well, you are kinda right: There is no hope for me to change to supporting a group of people that bombs kids, support rapists, and support genocide. I'm pretty stuck on those being bad things, and I'm not going to support them, like you did.

Unfortunately for me, I still think there's hope for you. I think that, once you calm down, and try reading what people say, and learning about the facts, you will change your mind. I think you are just mad that Trump is in charge, as I am. But you aren't currently willing to look at the reasons why Trump is in charge, and instead are lashing out at the people who want to keep him and his ilk out of power.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago

Nope. Only Trump or Harris had a chance. Voting for anyone else was the same as not voting, and that was the same as not voting against Trump and that was the same as helping Trump.
There is no hope for you if you keep helping who you don't want to win.

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