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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by JettuhGlowie@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

I recently got into a debate with a friend who swears is "Against AI Slop", but uses AI for 90% of his researching stuff. When i point it out, i got a 20 minute rant about how AI helps him learn and makes him learn faster, but i see massive issues with this. For once, using AI even as a starting point is a gamble, if not a straight damage to the learning process as a whole, mainly because sloppified information spit out by an LLM is often simplified, imprecise and oversimplified. For example, he told me to be interested in Arch Linux, but said the Arch Wiki was too "difficult to understand and took knowledge for granted" and told me that AI helped him understanding it. However i think that the wiki being verbose and designed to not be understandable by everybody is a filter to make sure that you don't go and use Arch if you can't understand the wiki, not for gatekeeping, but because a sloppified and short version of processes explained in the wiki will result in you knowing WHAT to do, but often not HOW and WHY. Also, it keeps you locked to AI since if you get used to the simplification (and often misinformation) given by the slop generator, it'll be hard to understand the real sources, and it'll be hard to learn the jargon and will lead to an incomplete result. I could go on for days and feel free to debate me, but I am tired of pretending that AI is a great learning tool. It can be, but in its current status it's just not, and when it can be, IMO the other cons that come with AI usage outweigh the possible value of the info.

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, the correct way to tell is to do a study on AI as a learning tool. And turns out we got some. The answer to this question/debate was in the news a few days/weeks ago.

And some things just are complicated. Especially computer stuff like what's in the Arch wiki. There's 3 million ways to skin computer cats, every rule comes with several exceptions. People don't really know what they want. People do widerly different things with their computers... Some have brand new laptops with very different quirks than other people's 15 year old hardware. I mean the authors aren't cruel if they write 10 pages of very detailed info. It's just that it's complex. And sure you can dumb it down... To the point every statement is wrong on several levels.... It's just not a common conversation style in the Linux community.

It is however common in mainstream culture to desire some "simple truths". They're mostly wrong, no matter where they come from.

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