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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 days ago

They claim it's "zero knowledge" proof through Google pay, meaning that Google will know you paid Signal, and Signal knows you paid them, but there is no link between the two that uses your PII payment info to identify the Signal account. I'm inclined to believe them.

[-] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Unless you wait a good while to use what you paid for (if that's even possible), then I doubt it'd be hard to connect the dots. Never mind connecting transaction records.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago

It's the exact same privacy protection as signing up with a phone number.

Not quite. With a phone number a random phone provider knows your identity. They do not get notified you are signing up for Signals. Google doesn't know you signed up with that phone number for Signals either. Depending on your country and how these details are handled there may not be an easy way to lookup who you are from a phone number.

There's obvious downsides to the phone number use, of course, but saying it the same in terms of privacy than this, doesn't feel correct.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's identical security for the payment too. Assuming you trust Signal, they don't keep a record of it tied to your actual account the same with a phone number.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

"Your Signal code is..."

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

Oh, also, they're just using Google Play for now. They'll definitely be adding a generic CC option.

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Could use a refillable credit card.

If they pass through Google infrastructure, then it's a no.

Also, why would you have to pay for something that should be a completely free and basic feature?

They're completely off the rails.

[-] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago
[-] Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lmao, it can be achieved in better ways; they can just use a ZKP FLOSS captcha (such as Anubis, but adapted for native apps, there are some), or manual verification (such as most XMPP or Matrix instances, and even more general online services providers such as Disroot [this one uses Anubis AND manual email verification for the signup process, then only Anubis]).

They're shady asf, and now are being exclusionary towards these who can't pay? Hell naw, fuck 'em

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Google will know you paid Signal

That's not ok either! Just stop playing these games and stop obstructing self hosting. When they come to round up all the Signal users, they won't care what account belongs to who. So there should be no database that identifies the users.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

If "they" get to the point of rounding up all Signal users, not using Signal will not prevent you from being rounded up.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

First they came for the Treema users...

[-] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

If Google and Signal collude can they link payments to accounts via timing attacks? My guess is yes

this post was submitted on 25 Sep 2026
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