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submitted 6 days ago by TRAHR@quokk.au to c/politics@lemmy.world

Trans journalist Erin Reed has published a list of Democratic midterm candidates with anti-trans records, and the question she is forcing is one the party would rather not answer: if trans voters keep rewarding Democrats who harm them, what signal does that send? The calculation is real, the stakes are high, and there is no clean answer.

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[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

If you think a dem losing to a republican is going to send them a message about trans rights.... you are totally wrong.

Republicans are going out of their way to hurt Trans people, do not let them win by voting 3rd party in close races!

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

We have the modern Republican party because people refused to support the not-insane and politicians changed their tune to avoid that. One of the arguments for el-Sayed in his primary victory was that Stevens would risk a replay of the Undecided issue. The idea that politicians (and other voters) just don't look at demographic voting trends at all and pretend anyone who didn't vote last election is a non-entity is silly.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

So what you're telling me is that my votes don't matter and won't send anyone a message and that Talarico showing he's willing to lie in the primaries about his position on trans people and then change his position after we vote for him is the best chance I have simply because his party is blue? So we'll get another Joe Manchin?

[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 days ago

Uhhhh yes? Have you not paid any attention to how the two party system works?

I'm not saying it's good, but I'm saying if you want to have a chance at making it better we need massive amounts of dems so the ones who are progressive can pass changes to make it better.

Voting for a more progressive person who has zero chance of winning is throwing your vote away. That's how the system works. For years those voting green party for more liberal ideas have lost and split the vote so more republicans win who push platforms farther and farther right.

So yes, vote for the lesser of two evils until you have the opportunity to vote progressive and make your votes actually matter.

Primaries are the time to get the more progressive person for the election, don't vote on the election day "to send a message". That's how we get Trump and MAGA

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

Yeah, so you're not talking about reality. The Democrats have been sliding to the right themselves. That's not the fault of the voters.

[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

Yes it is. When they lose over and over to right wing opponents which way do you think they'll slide? For those that refuse to vote unless they have a perfect candidate or one who does show up to vote who they then try to cater to?

You are the one missing reality when you think not voting or voting 3rd party for under 5% total vote matters at all. Because that's what people have been doing and it clearly doesn't work

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

You're contradicting yourself. You're saying people have been voting for third party but they never get even 3% of the vote, let alone 5%, so clearly that's not the problem. And they're not not voting because voter participation in 2020 was the highest since 1908 and 2024 was tied for second highest with 1960.

So again, you're not dealing with reality. People aren't choosing to not vote nor to vote third party. The Ds are continually sliding right because of something other than the voters.

[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

There are way more people now and voting numbers are atrocious. Almost 1/3 decides to stay home and not vote. Over 10% of those registered don't show up either.

Not voting because you don't have an ideal candidate is definitely part of the problem. Keep voting dems and pull them left via primaries and giving them a chance. Stop voting republicans in whole only go farther right.

Its not a hard concept

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

It's not a hard concept because it's a fucking fantasy and isn't mapping to reality at all

[-] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

You pushing people to vote 3rd party for a 0% chance to win in a very close race where Dems finally might win a seat in Texas after decades of republican control and loss of rights is just insane and anti everyone including Trans rights.

Seriously fuck of with that logic. Vote for Talarico or don't complain and don't be surprised with a horrible outcome.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

I am not pushing people to vote third party. I am pushing people to shut down the economy with a general strike, occupy the halls of power, abolish the Senate entirely, and rebuild the country. Because anything less will continue the atrocities.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

send them a message

I've been hearing that kind of thing for decades - I remember single issuer voters voting Libertarian or Republican or whatever because the Democrats were "just as bad" on things like marijuana legalization, prison reform, etc.

There is effectively no message sent and nothing received when people sit out, throw their vote away on an absurd third party, or vote Republican.

[-] Cyanova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Why are you running defence for them? Their job is to manage your expectations into extinction, they are your rulers not your friends.

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