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submitted 6 days ago by throws_lemy to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world

In a completely unsurprising turn of events, Meta's Muse AI is stealing Apple Messages, past and present, and uploading the contents to its cloud, even if explicitly told not to.

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[-] tyler@programming.dev 13 points 5 days ago

Me? I wrote an app to read my iMessage database to pull two factor codes out and type them in automatically cause I was lazy.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Link to repo?

Seriously, this is the Internet… pics or it didn’t happen.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago

https://spin.atomicobject.com/search-imessage-sql/

This article is from years later. Seems like it got harder, but it’s still dead simple. Just give permission and then open the file.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 days ago

This is describing the ability to read the messages from the actively booted and decrypted partition. This would absolutely not work without being able to log onto the machine. So while you are technically correct you are leaving out the caveat that this only works when you can also access the app not strictly without the app.

[-] elvith@feddit.org 12 points 5 days ago

But the context is, that Meta's software can extract them. For the software to run the system must be booted and the partition is likely already decrypted. So we're exactly in this state.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 days ago

Yes but the comment I was replying to implied that it could be done not in that state hence my question.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago

Huh? I did not imply that at all. If your hard drive is encrypted the state of anything on that drive doesn’t matter at all. You’ve completely made up a scenario in your head about what I was talking about.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -4 points 5 days ago

You said you could access it without the app not while you still had access to the app.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Your logic makes no sense. Either the partition is decrypted (you’re logged in and can access iMessages) or it’s not. If it’s not decrypted then it doesn’t matter what platform you’re on, you’re not getting access to any data on the drive. If it’s decrypted then it is how the app itself stores things.

In iMessages case it’s a SQLite db. The same is not true of 1Password for example.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 days ago

You said you could get to the messages without the app which gives the impression that it can be done when the app cannot be accessed not only when it also can.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

No it doesn’t. It means you can access the messages without the app. Not when the fucking computer is off. The jump in logic here is wild.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago

Putting aside that things like Target Disk Mode and removable hard drives exist, I’m really not sure why you can’t get over the fact that your wording was confusing to some people. Just move on. Just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it doesn’t make sense.

[-] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

That is like a default ability in macOS tho?

[-] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

It is now. At least for browsers. It was not at the time for the menu bar app my company required, Tunnelblick.

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