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Too many people I know are like this
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this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2026
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The community dedicated to boycotting the US until they stop fascism, restore full democracy and start following international law.
Americans have a moral obligation to resist Donald Trump and project 2025 at every turn.
America is a flawed democracy currently being ruled by oligarchs. Stop the backslide! Dont let America become the next Hungary.
America needs to challenge the court rulings of citizens united v. fec and shelby county v. holder, protect the media, implement independent district drawing, and the single transferable vote so they don't end up having people stay home in life-changing elections because they cannot vote for their favourite candidate.
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Yes, let’s divide ourselves up by who shops where.
Do you know why Jeff Bezos and Amazon don’t give a shit that they have such an awful reputation?
It’s because of nonsense like this that pits us against one another instead of organizing for real change.
Amazon is a behemoth. Even if everyone stopped shopping there many of them would still use Amazon every day in the form of AWS, otherwise known as Amazon Web Services .
I propose we all continue to give each other grace and instead focus on getting more Mamdanis at all levels of government everywhere the far right movements are taking off.
As far as I can see, every company eventually becomes evil once it reaches critical mass. It's seemingly impossible to have a non-evil massive company; it's like an inevitable law of society.
Therefore, supporting non-evil businesses requires a constant engagement and dealing with small, inconvenient businesses. As soon as you get comfortable and in a routine, the business becomes profitable and popular, and really gets off the ground; you're done. You must cut all ties with that business and find a new, inconvenient, and small to medium business to trade with.
If we all stopped using AWS and started using something else, eventually it would become the same thing. It's strange and doesn't make much sense to me, though. I think it's a consequence of promoting greed in a currency-based society, but we don't exactly have any other case studies to compare against.
Eh. The cornerstone of most of these big firms is some amount of government or government-adjacent contracting.
That's what makes them convenient. They adopt uniform integrations. They operate in bulk. They have enormous staff. You're nibbling around the edges of a much bigger and more complex system.
The solution to Amazon isn't to patron some Mom-And-Pop retail frontend (that almost certainly also uses Amazon for shipping). It's to nationalize Amazon and incorporate it into the USPS.
AWS has nothing meaningful to do with USPS or shipping, but I agree it would be interesting if it was nationalized. A nationalized hyperscaler.. interesting
AWS is the single largest provider of cloud commuting services across the US Public Sector, USPS included.
But I was more referring to the Reverse Flow of Amazon Shipping, which takes heavy advantage of USPS last mile service, because this is the most expensive part of delivery.
Given the degree to which the state finances these businesses, it's sort of crazy we haven't nationalized them already.
The problem is most people don't even know when they are using a service that utilizes AWS.
That choice is being made by unknown executives within companies that may otherwise be benign.
AWS + MSFT Azure + Google Cloud is like 65%+ of all online services. 😐
I feel like that's a low estimate
I wonder if there's a way to block AWS connections at the network or http header level? Might be a cool idea
https://github.com/nickspaargaren/no-amazon
you can do that via dns with something like adguard home or pihole using a no amazon blocklist
the level of breakage is immense, so expect having to check logs and manually ublock domains in some circumstances
(an example i couldn't ignore was ifixit, ymmv)
In other words: you are so far into left ideology that you absolutely refuse to use the capitalist tools. Boycott is effective of course but the problem is people interested enough in shits companies do are generally the one on the far left with your mentality.
So those that believe in the effect of "voting with your money" don't use it because, in their ideology, companies are the good guys. And those that don't believe in it don't bother changing because by definition they can't believe it.
Kind of all my far left friends which are now getting rich and investing in etf of very big companies. The same they despise.
If only people could get out of ideology, we could have actual solutions
What a crock of shit! I don’t care if people boycott but I certainly hope they have an understanding of how ineffective that could be.
There needs to be regulatory change. AWS and Azure have an outsized influence on the modern internet and technology sector because of how massive and widespread they are. Roughly 8% of all global internet traffic runs through AWS, Azure and Google Cloud services. You can toss Cloudflare in there too.
What I’m saying is that we need to have our representatives at a political/governmental level actually represent the people and it needs to happen globally.
Look at the improvements driven by regulatory change in the EU and imagine if that regulatory change effectively happened at a global level.
For Amazon specifically look at what Mandan is doing to hold them accountable in New York City.
Boycotts generally hurt a companies reputation more than their bottom line financially, but when dealing with a company that doesn’t care about their reputation or ones owned by billionaires that also own news media and/or social media platforms, they shape the narrative to their own benefit.
What is your agenda in arguing for boycotts and against regulatory change?
Boycotts can be extremely effective if enough people get on board.
Witness the pain the USA's tourism industry is facing due to the Canadian boycott. Or the US liquor industry due to that same boycott.
Really? Seems more like it’s hurting the industry, which was already in decline, and has led to no actual positive change.
I guess we have different definitions of effective.
OP was saying how it's fine to boycott but the real issue is division being sewn. And then you go ahead and try to divide us by misrepresenting what they were saying lol.
Thanks for proving their point ig
Yes sure I prove this point. Is that right that division is the problem though or is the way we act?
I'm all for being friendly and tbh I regret the way I expressed my message on that matter. But we cannot continue to say everybody is doing and fine and only a small group is responsible. If division is what it cost to change the whole population so be it. I only refrain division with relatives and coworkers (except of course those that like engaged didcussion). But division inside a nation or in the world is necessary if we hope to change.
Population that are very very similar in opinion it looks to me are the population we find in authoritarian country, not democracies
We're so easy to divide I can't even blame them for dividing us..