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Obviously being raped is worse. I’m not trying to start a competition or shouting match here.
My point is solely and entirely about the basic human right of due process: anyone should be considered innocent until proven guilty, no matter the gender or crime. That doesn’t mean don’t believe the accuser, but it means really take the charges seriously, investigate the crime to the best of your system’s abilities and if after all that there is insufficient evidence, there should be no conviction. Not by the justice system or the university. If he is guilty, as with any other crime, the system has failed. But until there is some major breakthrough, this is the best system we have.
As a more general point: the US is already falling into a society of lawlessness. Now you don’t have to go all Michelle Obama “When they go low, we go high” but at least don’t play their hand by inciting more lawlessness. I really don’t think you will win that war…
No, innocent until proven guilty is only the bar for the government to lock you up in a cage. It's impossible for anyone to live their life using that standard.
Not when universities have the ability to hide evidence and obfuscate real investigations in order to protect these men. Which they have done time and time again.
This is not the best system we have. We can't even get the police to process rape kits.
Then fight for a better system, like I said, but don’t incite lawlessness or start an argument with the one person advocating for due process.
Why do you think these stories are getting such traction right now?
These investigations were corrupt.
Then reinvestigate and improve the system, but don’t let yourself fade into even more lawlessness. Like I said before, this is an arms race you will not win against the likes of Trump and his cronies. They will always one-up you in ways your own consciousness won’t even let you imagine.
What the fuck do you think we're doing when we talk openly about these things with righteous anger? What the fuck do you think we're doing when we demand that universities no longer sweep these accusations aside?
Geez Velma, calm the fuck down please. What is it with you trying to get into an argument with whoever you can? Why are you even arguing with someone who wants the same thing you do?
Digging up every old case and publicly shaming the alleged perpetrators is, and will always be the definition of lawless. You’re simply not a judge. You don’t know the facts nor the evidence.
Public pressure can do wonders for making change.
Geez, Photonic, maybe if more people pushed back on some of the absolute horrid takes I've seen around, I wouldn't make it a point to be so outspoken.
Oh, it's your creepy ass again:
Yeah I can continue to not give any of your opinions weight. Thanks!
I am pushing back on your horrid take on lawlessness. If you think my take on advocating for due process is horrid I don’t know what to tell you. (I do, but you’ve gotten worked up enough already).
I left one public comment in a public forum and never talked to you again. Please explain in detail how that is creepy.
You could, but it wouldn’t make you any better for it. And you really need some better.
It was not one comment and you followed me along multiple posts.
Cry harder.
Followed? Come on, really? I saw one comment that was literally about me, and one the next day in a community I frequent because I saw you doing the exact thing I said you were doing to do.
Two posts, two different days. Then I never talked to you again until you replied to my comment here.
You really are a weird one. I’m starting to feel some tears here indeed, but not from sadness that’s for sure 😂