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this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2026
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Does anyone find it at all mechanistically surprising that one of the many latent dimensions of the set of all text humans produce is 'subject is in pain' or that pushing activations in that direction will alter the output of a text prediction system?
Reminds me of the way that when you relax the finetuning on LLMs they start 'believing' in UFOs and supernatural stuff. And how people take that to somehow mean something. Of course that is a large component in the space of stuff humans write about that you have to suppress if you want a professionally useful text service!
The research is cool. I love all the work that has been done decomposing representations within these systems.
Edit: Damn. I am forced to agree with Mustafa Suleyman of Microsoft.
totally. i also chalk a lot of blame up to the fact that system prompts (I think?) often include language like "you are an AI assistant" and because AI in science fiction is frequently like, a way of alienating and figuring human consciousness by situating it at its limits, it often entails the experience of pain? or like sometimes AI is used to represent what happens when we instrumentalize and objectify experiencing subjects, or experimentally instantiate a real distinction between rationality and feeling, and given that i think most writers believe that these are bad approaches to existence that lead to dysfunction and suffering, well
i think it kind of parallels how so many AI delusional spirals involve New Kinds of Physics -- physics is coded as The Smartest Thing Ever and if an AI is Superintelligent or if you've unlocked Superintelligence through it then "paradigm shifting innovations in physics" are going to be what follows from that line of reasoning + the "you are an AI" thing