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[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 days ago

could? that's some optimistic point of view

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

GM has been banned from selling user data to insurance companies in the US and Tesla has been in the news multiple times for sharing video from inside people’s cars.

This should be a forgone conclusion especially with Europe mandating cameras in cars now.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hate that camera surveillance in cars is happening like that. Unfortunately people have also been proven to be absolute morons when driving and doing all sorts of other shit than actually keeping their eyes on the road, and inattentive driving is the leading cause of accidents. So this is sort of something people brought on themselves by being idiot drivers.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

Yes, but I feel like putting cameras in cars isn’t the answer. People are already finding ways to trick the computer into thinking they are paying attention:

We need far stricter enforcement, too many people treat driving like a right instead of a privilege. Even drunk driving isn’t treated as a license removing offense in a lot of places.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

But what is the answer? Higher fines isn't doing much to change this behavior, even withdrawing licenses and impounding cars have very limited effect. Do we throw people in prison for being inattentive in a car?

[-] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

Pretty sure the a awer isn't a giant TV screen at the front of every car

I'd say making manual transmissions mandatory would be a good start.

Maybe require paddle shifters be used on auto transmissions.

Maybe in a year or two when 99% of all messages coming through phones is AI scams, marketing,slop, and dick pics people won't be so interested in their phones and the problem will solve itself.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I’m not sure there is any one answer but I think I would start with education. Anti-littering campaigns haven’t ended littering but they have certainly shifted the public mindset around litter, I think distracted driving is going to need to be treated the same way.

[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

I agree, it’s the key to the fix.

I think driving lessons, licensing and road safety should all be part of high school programs.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

campaigns to "focus on driving while driving" have already been running for 15 years here.

[-] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Education for driving and responsibility on the roads should really be starting in school and part of schooling programs. It’s probably one of if not the most important skill we learn and it’s one of the biggest killers, much of that through lack of responsibility.

We need to start running it through high school, as part of schooling. It could even be used to incentivise staying in school.

[-] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

In Norway they used to make the fines a percentage of the driver's yearly income, I do not know if this is still the case. So a chief physician for example would get fined like 150.000 NOK ~ €14.000 for drunk driving.

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This really still only scales to impact poor -> middle class people, above that and even though they pay the same percentage, their overhead is just big enough to absorb it without the same impact to their lives. Saying "it is what it is" to a €120.000 ticket really shows how little it actually hit people like this, it's a nuisance but ultimately nothing more.

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