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Why did you chose to leave part of the sentence off. Also what's you're point? Some are under renovation, sure. Some are asking too high a price for sale or rent. Or, they're second homes. Or, they're holiday homes Or, they're airbnbs. Or, investments. Or abandoned.
I don't consider a home that is used Mon to Fri to be unoccupied.
We need to build houses. It's the best way to get broad based growth. Lots of trades.
That's nice. I asked you why you chose to cherry pick the article and take partial quotes. Could you answer that please? Do you consider a house that's abandoned as unoccupied? Stop cherry picking please.
Here's what you're doing, knowingly or not: Reverse Gish gallop
Are you under the impression that I'm against building houses?
Here's me:
We agree: build more homes. Do we agree to fill the ones we have?
Had you read the article though:
You're just being silly now. Are abandoned houses unoccupied? If they are, then they're relevant. What's the real reason you're cherry picking.
To you maybe, it links to a report explaining why. But, given you haven't figured out whether abandoned houses are unoccupied...
How many are abandoned?
I don't really trust OBR projections, they're rarely correct.
What a silly deflection, be better. Are they unoccupied?
It's not a deflection, they've listed all the types of unoccupied, how many are in each category?
Are abandoned houses unoccupied?
It is a deflection.
To be clear now, they're now relevant enough to know how many in each category?
Let's just give this the sniff test:
Ok, you dismissed abandoned houses as irrelevant because you didn't know how many there are
You think these ones are relevant because you did know how many there were?
Can you see why it's a deflection? It doesn't matter to your position how many there are. You, at the time, didn't know how many there were of any of them, but you made a distinction anyway.
700k houses isn't a large % of UK housing stock.
Oh gosh, you're back. More deflection from you I'm afraid.
Once again, how many times now?
Are abandoned houses unoccupied?
Answer that and we'll zip back up to where I originally asked the question, and we can put your whole song and dance behind us.
What? You've never asked that question. I asked you how many there were. You've got a big list and no numbers. Do better.
https://vger.to/fedinsfw.app/comment/2595705
Incorrect. I asked you that question from the link comment onwards.
Obviously an abandoned house is empty. Is it habitable though?
https://feddit.uk/comment/27885522
Thank you, that was a whole song and dance that was entirely unnecessary.
Let's just say that some are habitable. Therefore they're relevant. Therefore you cherry picked correct?
You don't know how many abandoned houses there are (see thread), you don't know how many are of any of the houses are habitable (see comment)
You cannot use partial quotes to cherry pick arguments. So back to my next question you ignored, why are you cherry picking?
You, of course don't know how many any of the examples are, so your ignorance as to how many there are, or if they're habitable is no excuse for why you chose some examples and omitted others.
Answer this one and we'll zip up to the first time I asked again.
According to your source 97% of house are occupied. Your whole argument that empty houses are a massive problem is false.
The answer to housing shortage isn't going going to be found in current housing stock.
Build more.
Ah, you're back to deflecting again. How boring.
This is the comment thread we are currently in:
That is the argument we're currently unpicking. You can deflect all you want.
People die, houses go through probate, it can take years.
Perhaps learn something about the subject you refuse to engage in.
More deflection.
Here's the subject you're refusing to engage in:
Is this going to be like the abandoned house thing again? Where it takes you 20hrs to answer whether they're occupied? That was such a dull thread.
It is deflection, and I've demonstrated to you why.
Now once again: why did you cherry pick the original article?
You know you came to me right? You can stop at any time.
Ok, my argument was that when we poors fight only the wealthy win. I understand it fine, do you? You don't seem to.
But anyways here was your comment which cherry picked the article:
That isn't the full sentence is it? You left off some relevant information didn't you? That's called cherry picking isn't it?
Oh look, I told you what I wanted you to do:
I'll ask you again: why are you resorting to cherry picking? I thought you wanted to jog on?
This was OPs point. You had to ram a load of boring leftist wank about billionaires without answering his fucking point
You are the one deflecting.
Fewer people, more houses. It's not that deep
We'll get there. But, to get to the op we have to go through my reply, and to get to my reply we have to go through your reply.
The reply that was pure cherry picking. So I'll ask again, why did you cherry pick the article?
You see, what you did was cherry pick a very small, and incidental part, of a much bigger argument... Which I called out as a Reverse Gish Gallop. Until you see that we're not going to have a particularly productive conversation, are we?
It is going to be like when you couldn't answer whether an abandoned house was unoccupied. How dull, I really hoped you wanted to jog on.
Oh gosh, it's you again. I had hoped you jogged on.
You see, what you did was cherry pick a very small, and incidental part, of a much bigger argument... Which I called out as a Reverse Gish Gallop. Until you see how ridiculous that was, we're not going to have a particularly productive conversation, are we?
Once again: Why did you decide to cherry pick?
Action on empty homes has breakdowns:
Long-term empty homes
To be classed as ‘long-term empty’ a home has to be liable for council tax and to have been unfurnished and not lived in for over 6 months. This figure is increasing all the time, but as at October 2025, it was 303,143 - a rise of 14% on 2024 and over 50% up on 2016 - the year after the last national Empty Homes Programme ended.
More here: https://www.actiononemptyhomes.org/facts-and-figures
Under second homes:
Am I understanding that right as a minimum of 268k in this category? As ther rest are in Holiday Let's and
That's a good source, thank you for that. I just used the top one of my search.