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[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I did recently and its been better than I expected. The only real issue was RCS. After 2 years of me not having a Facebook account, my friends finally switched from Facebook's system to a group text... which broke utterly without RCS.

I had to install Google's Messages app and fiddle with the native app and Google's RCS settings and eventually it start working again. I am pretty competent but the support for this seemed to be digging through forum posts and trying a bunch of different solutions unsuccessfully and then having it suddenly work and not knowing why. I hope they manage to get a solution working in the native app.

Otherwise a great experience!

[-] queeradjacent@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Good thought. Luckily all my critical folks are on Signal.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There are very few people I can convince to switch just because its too hard for them to switch apps depending on who you are talking to.

I rarely interact in chats with these folks and one friend that I'm closest to in that group had basically been acting a repeater for important messages. I didn't want to, just months after finally having them stop using a group Facebook chat switch to group SMS that included me, bail on them again for an even less common method of communication and make him do that again.

I'll bring it up in person in a month or two. One of them literally works for Google - not a massive fanboy but prone to occasional defensiveness - so I'm not super hopeful it'll happen anytime soon.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I was able to get RCS to work on Google Messages easily on GrapheneOS. The issue I had was trying to NOT use RCS. My messages have never been encrypted with iPhone users so I'm using Molly for people that matter anyways, and I was hoping to be able to recieve group texts even though I wasn't using Google Messages anymore. Nope, could never get it to work. I tried deregistering from RCS on Google's page, I tried contacting TMobile support, etc. Those group text just disappeared into the ether. So I'm back to Google Messages until Grapheme Messages adds RCS.

[-] tigerhawkvok@startrek.website 4 points 1 day ago

Why Molly over the official client, may I ask? The official client is already OSS.

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

If you're trying to fully De-Google on GrapheneOS one of the thorny issues you have to solve is that push notifications don't work without Google Play Services. For my primary profile my goal was to have Google Play and Play Services completely disabled.

Molly allows you to select an alternative push notifications setup. I used Sunup which I think uses a Mozilla service and then you set it up with a public MollySocket server and make sure Sunup has unrestricted battery access and then push notifications work reliably without Play Services.

[-] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm running Signal v8.24.4 on GrapheneOS, no play services, and notifications are working fine. Did you make sure to turn off battery optimization?

[-] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I didn't actually try the Signal client, I definitely wasn't getting timely push notifications with Molly until I set up Sunup. It's very possible that disabling battery optimizations would work, but my understanding is that IF that does work, it's because the app is maintaining it's own persistent connection to it's servers whereas if you have a push notification server, you have one persistent connection running to the push server and it will wake up the apps as needed? Probably I don't have a complete understanding of all this, but basically I think there are some battery life advantages to push notifications over other forms of persistent connections, so if you don't have an actual push server configured and the apps can't reach Google's then they either get delayed notifications (only once you open the app to check?) or they downgrade to a less efficient persistent connection.

The other reason I tried Molly was that it was in the Accresent store which seems to be recommended by the GrapheneOS devs and when I first made the switch I hadn't gotten Play alternatives like Aurora, Obtanium or F-Droid set up yet.

[-] tigerhawkvok@startrek.website 1 points 14 hours ago

Thanks! That's an important consideration that I hadn't run across.

[-] Unreliable@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's actually really easy nowadays. There's specific setting in the sandboxed Google play for ICC identification (needed for RCS) and activation/it getting it to work is trivial as long as you use Google messages.

The native RCS app is something they want to do but is far out.

[-] theparadox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I thought that might have been the setting that did it. Unfortunately, a prompt to change that setting occurred only after about 16 hours of multiple rounds of switching, uninstalling, resetting permissions for, adding permissions to, and clearing data from the Messages app, multiple rounds of turning off RCS through Google, etc. I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in support posts or the extremely long release notes pages until after that prompt.

Admittedly, my ability to find anything useful through DDG or Google seems to get worse every week.

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