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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by MrOtingocni@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

A few years ago anything you wanted to search for would generate hundreds of pages of results. From sources all over. If you structured your query well you could dramatically cut down the irrelevant results and then spend a bit of time skimming through the offerings until you found your target.

Searching felt like a hunt, it could take you to far flung corners of the web, and hitting the jackpot on some obscure forum was part of the fun.

Now searching anything feels incredibly frustrating. You know what you are looking for is out there somewhere but it feels impossible getting to it. Basically we have only two main routes now, Google and Bing (and I swear Bing is just copying Google's homework). I've tried a handful of others and they all fall very short.

Something has changed dramatically under the hood.

It seems like the results are very shallow and no amount of prodding will get either search engine to produce anything besides the laziest output. Any subject has a limited pool of sites they lean on and then pretend that that's all of the Internet.

It generalizes very quickly and if you try to counter by putting things in quotations it gives up.

Even in the rare moments I've buckled and used their stupid AI, it takes even more time browbeating the program to just deliver the damned specifics.

What is going on??

How do we get our old search back?

I swear every day of trying to navigate the web feels worse than the day before.

How did we get here?

There's got to be something better, right? Or something we can do to pave a new structure that benefits the denizens of the web better than the lazy slop our tech overlords scrape off the table for us. What can we do?

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago

I've never seen any search engine officially confirm this, but search across all search engines became terrible just a few months after the release of ChatGPT.
Which is why my assumption is that LLMs are being used to generate heaps of credible-looking, but ultimately worthless webpages. And search engines have to try to filter those out or their results would be even worse.

But then there's no obvious distinction between a human-crafted blog and some spam webpage, which means the human-crafted blog is likely to be caught in the crossfire and get filtered as well.

Well, and on top of that, search engines presumably got hit by AI scrapers looking for training data, so that's why I would assume, they now limit the search results to one page...

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah. Noticed this too. Pages that look legit but are filled with useless word salad that doesn't go anywhere.

Gives you an impression that those pages didn't exist before your search. How it got to top results is beyond me.

[-] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Those sites train their models for SEO is how they get top results.

And I agree, somtimes even the domains look like they are generated on the fly to suit your search keywords.

[-] Saltarello@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

On DDG (can't say for Google as I don't use it) search results include a date & I automatically disregard anything dated very recently - almost always slop

this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2026
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