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So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?
~Sounds solid. 👍~
Seriously. Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.
I heard they were just waiting for you, man.
You’re talking to Americans here. Fucking cowards aren’t even willing to block traffic or occupy buildings. The mere suggestion of a response that’s a step or two beyond that, approaching something halfway proprtionate? They’ll piss their pants in fear, clutch their pearls and start attacking YOU more forcefully than they’d ever come at MAGA.
A perfect example of this is what happens when you suggest voting third party.
In the US system voting third party IS clown-brain shit, though.
Smarter than voting for genociders
Nope, it's really not. There's nothing stopping third parties from winning except for takes like yours.
This is fantastically stupid, we've seen the duopoly successfully attack third party candidates before, there's a whole lot more in the way than the attitudes of random voters
Good intentions mean nothing. Outcomes matter.
And the outcome of voting for dems is genocide
If you actually cared you’d be doing something about it.
Good thing I am. The very first thing I'm doing is not voting for dems
You’re doing nothing.
Better than to empower genociders
What country are you from again?
A fun aspect of the American dream is if you fuck around too much you can lose your job. Which I’ll bet true everywhere but an added bonus is you also lose your health insurance and some people need health insurance to stay alive
Not blocking traffic in a country where running over protestors is fine is not cowardice.
Try protesting armed maybe?
It sure as fuck is.
Have you seen American police? They have machine guns, tanks, and air support. They've been trained to see citizens as the enemy for years (see Warrior Cop Training).
And your move is to… keep allowing this and keep your head down?
Congratulations. You have agreed to a political morality where the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
Look, I'm old and have serious health issues. Your comments are ableist and simplistic. I'm not going to unilaterally sacrifice myself.
No they're completely right, plenty of old people throughout history have managed not to be fucking cowards
Americans, forever unable to imagine collective action except as a series of unilateral individual decisions. Okay, great- clearly your best move, then, is to shit-talk direct action in spaces where people considering it are likely to gather.
If you don't want to put your comfort at risk, fine. Very least you could do is not actively contribute to the problem.
You don't really understand American life. We work ourselves nearly to death because our unions have been broken and gutted and demonized, we have no decent healthcare and we still have to spend an unacceptable amount of time and money for it, most of us are enslaved by the cost of our enormous cars and by housing that is increasingly exploited by private equity, and we are constantly barraged by divisive propaganda and suspicion campaigns. This all results in a populace that is spent. You may experience some of that, but you cannot imagine the totally of it, which is why it seems so easy for you. Maybe your age is also a factor?
Either way, I'm not changing any minds here. There's not enough upvotes to worry about, so your complaint seems like looking for a moral panic to pin on me, which is pretty funny.
plus it's objectively wrong as exemplified by the last election
really it seems like it's blaming people for just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement. voting for the lesser evil is not enough.
Evolution can't work if we back-slide.
Let us know when your clip airs on the news.
"the lesser" evil is still evil, it is still a backslide in your line of argument
Let me know when your strategy of voting for genociders stops the genocide
Like, for example, if we let a cop run the country? I agree. Let's force the DNC to back more progressive candidates instead of more conservative ones. Signalling that you'll vote for literally anyone with a D next to their name only incentivizes them to appeal to the right.
One sec, I'm getting a premonition... You're going to tell me to ”vOtE iN pRiMaRiEs" as if the DNC doesn't have a monumental sway in which candidates end up on ballots. I do vote in primaries, for the record
There are always other choices, but those might possibly require actual work and personal risk so they're too scary for the voter brain to handle
It doesn’t help that the two big parties made it so that only the two big parties get coverage at debates and other nationally televised stuff.
There is also the problem that for presidential elections, the electoral college are the ones who actually choose the president. And, while the college usually chooses based on the will of the people, they are by no means obligated to do so.
There are, of course, other issues too. But it is worth reiterating that it is not my, nor your, fault that things are the way they are.
~I do lay a lot of blame these days on Alito and Citizens United.~
You chose to confine yourself inside that box.
No more than you, who does nothing but complain loudly.
So instead of complaining and bringing attention to a subject we're supposed to shut up and comply? How good of an authoritarian view you have there.
Bringing attention to a problem is fine (even though I’d wager we’re all painfully aware of this one already). But blaming the victims is not. So there’s that.
Fucked up to talk about victim blaming in relation to someone critiquing the democrats
How so?
We the people are the victims of a two party system that suppresses our will due to corporate interests. The dems are not innocent in this problem. They are the lesser of two evils, but they are still considered evil (e.g., Kyrsten Sinema, John Fetterman, Chuck Schumer, et all). Meaningful change by us normal people is intentionally difficult; not impossible, I admit, and people Like Mamdani are helping, but the bar is set very high and very expensive.
“…[my] choosing…” is blaming me (and every American) for things I fundamentally have no control over. I do what I can locally, but AOC, Mamdani, and Bernie I am not.
It also really sucks when a member of congress from some other state/district pushes and enacts some imposing change that affects people in other states/districts, and the people in the other states/districts can only write letters/make calls to their reps and if they’re lucky they may receive back some canned form letter written by a staffer. I’m projecting on that one, but I suspect my state and district aren’t unique in that problem.
So yeah, I ask again, how so?
I am not wasting my time reading all that. Joe Biden is a rapist who killed the MeToo movement, the democrats are enacting a genocide and people can vote third party. Pretending like you're a "victim" when you vote for genociders is insane. And its fucked up to appropriate language used to describe what happens to women who come forward about sexual assault, to shield yourself from critique for voting for rapist genociders.
You just told me everything I need to know about you. 👍
That I dont approve of running defence for rapists? Yeah, what a shocker!
And you just told anyone who can read that you're fine with rape and genocide as long as the blue team is doing it, fucking moron
I love the irony of your mentality:
Don’t vote for anybody because genocide/rape. And by not voting, the genociders and rapists win.
Tell ya what, since you seem to have all the a answers, I’d genuinely love to hear what you do to fix our problems? Aside of the above “not voting” advice.
I don't have all the answers, but I do know that anyone who spends as much time and energy defending genocide and rapists as you do is definitely evil