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[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The first therapeutic insulin was developed by University of Toronto. However, they did not have the money or means to mass produce it and thus the patent was sold to pharmaceuticals. Cuba and USSR are also pretty impressive with their biotechnology but unable to scale up their ideas.

The insulin example proves you need resources and manufacturing capacity, not capitalism.

Banting and the others gave the patent to the University of Toronto for $1 each because they didn’t want insulin monopolized. Production was then scaled through a mix of public institutions and private manufacturers.

The original patent expired, but drug companies built new patents around insulin analogues, formulations, and delivery devices, while the market became heavily concentrated.

So “you still need money” misses the point. Of course large-scale production needs funding, factories, workers, and logistics. The actual political question is who controls those resources, who owns the patents, and who gets the benefits.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You have a point about the patent. However, since you mentioned about production, my own point that "you still need money" still stands, because operating cost is still the major sticking point in running any businesses.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Sure, “you still need money”... nobody is arguing that factories run for free.

Your claim that Cuba and the USSR were “unable to scale” is incorrect. Cuba built a state-funded biotech sector that handles research, manufacturing, and exports, while the USSR also operated major vaccine, pharmaceutical, and biotech production programs.

Cuba has faced decades of embargo-related restrictions on equipment, reagents, finance, and advanced technology, including in biotech and pharmaceuticals. The USSR also faced Western export controls on advanced technology and equipment during the Cold War.

Yes, you need money, but you don't need capitalists.

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