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I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because "I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it" which is ridiculous. This isn't the first time that's happened on Lemmy. What's up with that?

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[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

"Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war." Josef Stalin

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me." Nikita Kruschev

"People say that the allies didn't help us. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. The Americans provided vital explosives and gunpowder. And how much steel! Could we really have set up the production of our tanks without American steel? And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own." Georgy Zhukov

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago

You know Stalin said that during a dinner with the western leaders, right? You think a compliment during dinner disputes my data?

You are aware that the CIA admitted that the USSR would have beaten the Germans without the help of the Americans, right?

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

And Kruschev and Zhukov? Weird that you'd believe the CIA over Soviet leaders.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 week ago

Their several sentences also don't dispel my historical data, lmao.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Your "historical data" that you refuse to source.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago

Disprove any of it or fuck off.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Source your charts or fuck off. You afraid they're bullshit?

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago
[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

If that were the case you'd have sourced them by now.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago

Source: the multitude of information available about soviet industrial production during WW2 on the Internet, and freely available information about the amount of material supplied by the lend lease program ๐Ÿ™„

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Can't find it, huh? No surprise there

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I've had the exact same experience and quoted the thanks that Stalin had, and their response is "fake news" lol

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

No, my response was the exact same. Paying lip service to allies during a dinner is not the same as historical data on tank production, lmao.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago
[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

Just red scare propaganda poisoned liberals, lmao.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago

You were unable to read my comment? It's commonly available knowledge. Which number do you take issue with?

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 days ago

If I had just pulled some random charts with no source, you wouldn't just believe them.

[-] NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 days ago

If the information wasn't widely available for the last 80 years I'd agree with you.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago

If it were so easily available you'd have provided a source.

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