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I don't like spending this much time arguing against campism but they just keep talking at me.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

For tankies, communism must be authoritarian, and the worst tankies will just prefer even actual fascism to "childish naivety of democracy". Technically tankies are just the leftist version of your right-wing grandpa trying to convince you to finally grow out of leftism, except they're overtly obsessed with "On authority" by Friedrich Engels.

[-] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

I hate being told I'm not socialist for wanting coöperative ownership and a coöp commonwealth economy, but that they are real the "real" socialists when they just want state owned corporations.

[-] psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because then the workers are just owned by capital when the point of the economy is still to create exchange value.

What happens then is the coops that pay their workers less will amass more capital than the ones that have better working conditions and push the better ones out of the market. When the goal is to generate profit, then a company that is privately owned by a capitalist class is the most efficient at doing that.

[-] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the leftist version

Are they leftists, though? They call themselves leftists, sure, but if it walks like a duck...

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

~~walks~~ steps like a ~~duck~~ goose...

FTFY

[-] pheelicks@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

Yeah. I dont know exactly what I would call them but the German "far"-"left" splinter party BSW just supported the actually far-right party AFD in voting for the first far-right state governor since the Nazi era... that's not exactly behavior that anybody would seriously consider left.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Probably cause they both get their funding from moscow and don't care about anything other than destroying western society, so they voted for the disrupter even though he's a fascist. Typical tankie behavior.

[-] GripenGal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago
[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Good point, they seem to be authoritarian with the extra requirement that government should also control the means of production.

[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

which was written in 1872 and is kinda way way way way way way way past its selling date.

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