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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by andrewrgross@slrpnk.net to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

I don't like spending this much time arguing against campism but they just keep talking at me.

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[-] IamMoonPie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I mean small bits of democracy exist everywhere. Charity groups often work as a democracy. The youth organization I was in as a kid operated as a great democracy.

There are little democratic groups all over the world working just fine. It’s the large scale corporate hellscape that keeps it from working for us as a whole.

[-] beanburger@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

But just saying out of hand "democracy works" is not a fact, it is an unproven assertion. Some charity groups work, most do not. Many charity groups like the largest vegan group DXE have SA charges among the leadership. Youth organizations collapse all the time. If democracy works then how come democratic countries elect authoritarians and fascists like the Republicans in US or Nazi's or even AFD in Germany? How come democratic countries elect people like Boris Johnson, Marie Le Pen, Bolsonaro, and Sanae Takaichi? Citation needed is just that, I'd like to know where these democratic nations and organizations that exist that actually work. Doesn't seem like it works to me. Sounds nice in theory but I wouldn't say it "works" and clearly if we just assume out of hand that it does, we'll just keep repeating the mistakes that make it not work.

[-] IamMoonPie@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

So what’s your suggestion buddy? Do nothing?

[-] beanburger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

A dictatorship of the proletariat. Try reading a book, "buddy"

[-] IamMoonPie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That’s not what I asked bud

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