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submitted 12 hours ago by benjamin@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

hey everyone, i wanted to share a democratic funding platform i recently launched.

every week or month (depending on how our funds hold out), we fund a new solarpunk project, with the winner determined by vote in our app. to make it fun, you swipe right on a project to vote for it.

right now, we have enough members to award about two $250 prizes per month. however, we have a problem...

we need project submissions! otherwise, there is nothing for people to vote for.

so, if you're working on an art project, or an ecology project, or a sustainability project, or really anything at the intersection of technology and nature, please submit your project! it is completely free to submit.

this is a work in progress, so i greatly appreciate any questions or feedback. thanks!

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[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 hours ago

Don't bring identity politics into solarpunk spaces please.

Instead stick to criticizing the approach to the problem if it creates more troubles than helping, please :)

I would argue that being anti-LLM isn't identity politics, and that one can be anti-LLM for entirely non-political reasons.

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

They are not anti-LLM, otherwise they wouldn't have said about running llm the solarpunk way.

I agree on your point, if they just stated "I think that making it with an llm is a problem because xyz" I wouldn't have answered that. Identity politics is very much in the how not in the what you believe in.

We are on a solarpunk forum, if we don't talk about technology and politics with nuance where the hell can we do it? The rest of the internet is already full of low context low effort answers; OP tried to improve the funding situation for supposedly good orgs, we should be criticizing if the approach is right etc, not just shooting a "oh traces of llm then why do u use llm?"

Edit: actually asking "why" would have still been better instead of the lowkey "llms pollute"

[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

I suppose that's true, and there is a lot of anti-LLM voices that seem low-effort and/or reactionary. I however find it hard to actively be against them, because I can see how LLMs and generative AI more broadly are actively hurting communities I care about (FOSS projects being drowned in bogus PRs and issues, as well as huge waves of slop projects that are quickly abandoned; designers and artists being replaced by generated graphics [some people at my workplace have started using genAI for public facing graphics even though we have a graphic designer on staff because it's "faster/more convenient"]).

Disregarding all personal, and even the environmental factors (as I do agree that LLMs can be run in an environmentally conscientious way, even though most newly built operations very much don't seem to be, especially regarding power generation), I am still worried about devs and projects relying on LLMs to heavily, because the current level of availability and access to the models most devs seem to use is very much proped up on a very precarious financial construction, and it is very hard to judge from outside whether LLM-assisted projects, even those by experienced coders, are built in a way that would allow for manual maintenance and expansion.

So, while some anti-LLM voices can seem reactionary, I feel that there are many good reasons to be sceptical of LLM usage in a project, and I don't think that those that do don't have well-founded points, they might just be tired of reiterating them (though I feel that is probably the point where you could just write a blog post to point at).

I also see your point about bit letting perfect be the enemy of good, and I agree with that. I very much struggle with perfectionism, both in my own projects and when viewing those of others, and agree that if this leads to some funding for good protects, that is probably more important than their ai policy.

[-] orvorn@slrpnk.net -1 points 2 hours ago

Being anti datacenter is the same as being anti fossil fuels or anti war. It should be a basic common sense requirement of calling yourself solarpunk.

Also, your choice of language makes you sound like a regressive neoliberal.

[-] ex_06@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

A datacenter can be a way to optimize load (even balancing with sun presence with solar panels) and also can be made environmentally fine. Can you make "war" and "fossil fuels" the right way? Nope, at all. There is no good war and no good burning fossil fuels. And to be honest even lithium extraction is not exactly fine right now.

Also, your choice of language makes you sound like a regressive neoliberal.

Again, don't bring identity politics into solarpunk. Keep it confined to USA, you are doing great.

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