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[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 hours ago

If the use and inclusion of LLM derived output is truly defensible, why would you need to conceal its provenance or existence?

The debasement and solvency of competency wrought by the unbridled abdication to responsibility to such an incompetent construct is beyond depressing, this Is truly a world no longer worth inhabiting.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

The question is why it matters in the first place. As long as the person submitting code takes ownership of the code, and there is a review of the code being done the same as before, nothing actually changes. Your whole line of argument is absurd because it's premised on the idea that we can trust code produced by a human more than code produced by an LLM. And that's obviously not true because humans make mistakes all the time. So, the focus on how the code was produced is fundamentally misguided. The focus in any successful project is on validation through things like code reviews, specifications, testing, and other well established practices. That's what responsible teams have always done.

[-] ormith@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

To me it matters because if you got code from someone else, you'd probably want to credit it to them, right? So why shouldn't LLM output be treated the same?

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

LLM is a tool that a human uses, do you also credit your IDE when you write code?

[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

To me, it matters because the use and reliance on LLMs demonstrably erodes cognitive capacity and ability, and submissions tainted by them should be subjected to an elevated level of scrutiny, which can only be facilitated with a consummate element of transparency. That elevated scrutiny could, and probably should, also be applied to non-LLM infected submissions, but doing so wouldn’t negate the labelling of authorship.

Good faith proponents of LLM assisted tooling should be in favour of overt transparency and labelling, as it’s a requirement to facilitate future historical analysis of their utility, efficacy, and legitimacy; you know, to build a body of evidence.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

I assume you're citing a couple of studies with tiny samples that have been going around here. There's very little solid evidence to support the claim that LLMs demonstrably erode cognitive capacity. But if you have large scale, peer reviewed studies definitively showing this to be the case feel free to share them.

People lose certain skills working with LLMs, but that has always been the case with automation. Very few people know how to write assembly by hand, and practically nobody knows how to operate punch cards. Yet, we hardly claim that there was some loss of cognitive capacity as a result. People just spend their time focusing on different things now.

And I've already explained to you why the focus on the tooling is deeply misguided. You ignored my points entirely, which tells me that you're not actually trying to have a discussion in good faith here yourself.

[-] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Who said anything about concealing it? Not making a disclaimer mandatory and concealing something are two different things.

From the point of view of a reviewer, the code of the PR is all that matters. You shouldn't look at who wrote the code or what tools they used.

If the code is slop, it does not matter that a human or an AI wrote it, it is slop. Same if the code does what it's supposed to do and has a high enough quality to pass review.

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